NBN Co to trial paid upgrades in Tasmania

 

Fibre or fixed wireless for those outside the planned footprint.

NBN Co is set to trial a user-pays upgrade process in Tasmania that will allow council areas not in fibre or fixed wireless footprints to pay their own way to get their constituents faster broadband.

Less than three months after flagging the idea, NBN Co chief Mike Quigley said today that the process would be trialled around the next batch of Tasmanian towns to get NBN connections.

Quigley told iTnews that NBN Co was yet to have discussions with councils in these areas of Tasmania that sat outside the planned footprint.

"We're just putting in place a process for looking at network extensions... in the Tasmanian sites," he said.

Councils that decided they wanted to fund the extensions would not be forced to pay the full cost, for example, of connecting the fibre access node (FAN) to the network termination unit (NTU) on the side of a house, Quigley said.

"It would be a question of... if someone lies outside the existing fibre footprint of 93 percent of premises, what is the incremental cost to connect them, over and above what [it would cost to] connect them otherwise [using other technologies]," he said.

"So our intention is to charge people only that incremental cost."

That reinforced NBN Co's earlier position on the network extension process, which was that councils or other groups that sought an upgrade from fixed wireless to fibre would only have to "pay the [cost] difference" between rolling out the different technologies to get upgraded.

NBN Co had been lobbied on a number of fronts by councils eager to have their constituencies included in the NBN rollout sooner rather than later.

Quigley told a parliamentary inquiry today that NBN Co would ramp up the amount of information on its rollout that it could supply to local governments and other interested parties.

The company yesterday established an inbound call centre to handle information-related enquiries from Australians.

"We're at that stage of the company where a lot of the engineering and planning work has been done," he said.

"We're moving into the next phase which is on execution. We're putting more work into providing information [on that] to the community."

But Quigley said that NBN Co's challenge was to meet demands for information without stepping on the toes of the retail service providers, who would ultimately have the relationship with end customers.

"I think it would be a mistake for us to intercede on the [information provision] path of RSPs," he said.

Quigley said the first customer connections on the mainland were made in the northern NSW town of Armidale in the past week, which put the company firmly on schedule with its planned network tests.

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NBN Co to trial paid upgrades in Tasmania
"@umbria thanks mate!"
By BrettWinterford
 
 
 
Comments: 7
umbria
Apr 29, 2011 3:33 PM
And still nothing from The Australian newspaper on the hundreds of Armidale fibre users whose service went live on Monday 21 April. They have printed about ten NBN stories since then, but no mention of Armidale.

Great to see NBNCo's proactive approach to getting fibre delivered to as close to 100% as possible, too.
frances
Apr 29, 2011 3:46 PM
For all the discussion and [rightly deserved] derision of this scndalously expensive waste of our hard-earned money, I haven't seen any objection to the fact that the Direct Signals Directorate or DSD (our own version of America's NSA) will almost certainly - though how would we ever know - have their own fibre branch piped directly into their snooping systems, ensuring they can and will track every single email/Skype/SMS/phonecall/you-name-it conversation Australians even make from now on. I believe they can sort-of do it now, but it's hugely difficult. Fibre will make it so much easier, and therefore open to inevitable abuse. And who's to say private companies aren't installing their own nodes tucked away behind a cupboard? This whole NBN stinks worse than the Khemlani Affair. If only we had an Opposition - then again, I guess it suits them too. What a bugger!
BrettWinterford
Apr 29, 2011 4:11 PM
@umbria - my impression is that it is trials in Armidale rather than live commercial services? Please tell me if I'm wrong or I missed a big story too! cheers, Brett
Rossyduck
Apr 29, 2011 6:54 PM
Guys please pull your heads out the sand. The independents supported this rollout to get fibre services for their rural constituents without appreciating they were making it worse. Maintenance of Telstra copper is effectively stopping and there is no fibre past the urban fringe or in the smaller towns - hence why the towns are now being "generously" offered the opportunity to pay for their own fibre. In any case there are any number of people willing to put the fibre into the town for a fraction of the cost of the NBN provided backhaul is available.

Am I the only one that thinks this is all really backwards - why are we using our tax $$ to overbuild existing urban services and then forcing the small towns with no service now to pay for their own services. It is the one area that I would not begrudge my tax $$ being used - but preferably not using the ridiculous NBN Co architecture.
umbria
Apr 30, 2011 1:21 AM
Brett, I spoke to an Armidale colleague last Tuesday week (after the story broke in CW and Whirlpool) who advised that a number of his friends were activated by their ISPs on the Monday and it was absolutely amazing. Across the 12 initial ISPs I understand there are between 200 and 300 customers active. It is the real deal, full speed fibre. They are to keep their existing broadband as well, because the NBN service is in UAT mode as they make sure all the backend is optimised and glitch-free for a September official launch. And the lucky sods will not be charged for the fibre until September.
umbria
Apr 30, 2011 1:49 AM
Rossyduck, as you are well aware, maintenance of Telstra copper stalled at least ten years ago, and stopped dead since Sol was in charge.

Now let me explain why offering to subsidise fibre beyond the 93rd percentile is good for the public purse as well as for those customers.

NBNCo's mandate is to supply 12 Mbps or better broadband to all Australian premises as cheaply as possible. The May 2010 McKinsey/KPMG NBN Implementation Study proved that the cheapest solution capable of delivering 12 Mbps or better was fibre, right up to the 93rd percentile of premises (when ranked in order of cost). 12 Mbps wireless was dearer but still feasible up to the 97th percentile (about the same as the copper footprint, as it happens). Beyond this no terrestrial solution was cost-effective, so they could only be served by satellite.

So, the most expensive fibre installations will be those in the 93rd percentile.

But the cost of provisioning wireless to the 94th, 95th, 96th and 97th percentile gets progressively dearer.

So, if NBNCo offers to let communities outside the 93rd percentile pay the full cost to get fibre, minus the 93rd percentile cost per premises, then NBNCo spends less overall than it would by building, maintaining and operating wireless towers for them. A very small town might only need one wireless tower instead of ten, for instance.

This is commonsense when you understand it.
BrettWinterford
May 2, 2011 7:25 AM
@umbria thanks mate!
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