Data retention proposal pinned on VoIP

 

Government raises law enforcement concerns.

The Attorney-General's Department has fingered the shift from landline telephones to IP telephony as the trigger for its secretive data retention proposal.

The proposal came to light in June this year, when reports emerged that the Government could require ISPs to retain web traffic data for law enforcement purposes.

Little detail has been made available so far, with the Attorney-General's Department stating that publicising the proposal "may lead to premature unnecessary debate".

Representatives from the department's telecommunications and surveillance law branch told a senate committee hearing Friday that it intended to develop a "national, systemic approach" as technology evolved.

Describing the "good old days" of landline telephones, Assistant Secretary Catherine Smith noted that IP telephony providers would no longer store users' phone records for billing purposes.

"We were told by industry that they may not be retaining this sort of information into the future," she told the senate inquiry into the adequacy of protections for the privacy of Australians online.

"Over time, as telecommunications services such as voice telephony migrate to voice over internet services, less and less information will be stored."

Smith said the proposal sought to confirm that the industry would "continue to retain what they already retain".

However, she would not disclose what data it would require to be retained, nor when the proposal was first introduced.

She said the department had consulted widely with ISPs, carriers, State and Commonwealth agencies, the Department of Prime Minister and Cabinet, and industry associations such as the Communications Alliance.

But committee member Senator Scott Ludlam argued that "we seem to have missed out all of civil society, the public and parliament, and the industry associations have been bound by non-disclosure agreements".

Australian Federal Police Assistant Commissioner Neil Gaughan told the committee about a 2008 child abuse investigation, Operation Centurion, that required police to access IP addresses and metadata to identify offenders.

"All I'm asking for here is for the status quo to remain," Gaughan said.

"I think the balance [between privacy and law enforcement capability] is right at the moment; we get access to the metadata which is what we ask to be retained."

The data retention proposal has been criticised by privacy advocates and organisations such as Electronics Frontiers Australia.

EFA chair Colin Jacobs told the committee that retained metadata could be used to build invasive profiles of citizens' habits.

"I haven't heard a compelling case that the system we have right now is broken," he said.

"Until I hear a compelling case that there just isn't enough data... we certainly cannot support that data retention proposal."

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Data retention proposal pinned on VoIP
"Maxxi2 wrote: Loads of people seem to miss the simple fact that the data is already being cleected and stored by ISPs and always was... blah blah blah Hubert, who do you reckon caused all ..."
By HubertCumberdale
 
 
 
Comments: 6
HubertCumberdale
Nov 1, 2010 11:55 AM
Surveillance cameras.
Full body xrays at airports.
Internet filtering.
Internet logging.

All THIS to protect us from the terrorists and evil-doers? just lol.
RFCme
Nov 1, 2010 1:43 PM
Who watches the watchmen?
Cam
Nov 1, 2010 4:17 PM
Remember, remember the Fifth of November,
The Gunpowder Treason and Plot,
I know of no reason
Why the Gunpowder Treason
Should ever be forgot.
peterniss
Nov 2, 2010 6:04 AM
Anyone could be forgiven to think that the terrorists have won and evil side has taken over. This aint good. Indeed, who is watching the watchers when they classify everything as not in the publics interest. And quite clearly it all is. Very much so.
Maxxi2
Nov 2, 2010 12:36 PM
Loads of people seem to miss the simple fact that the data is already being cleected and stored by ISPs and always was...

Communications connections data has been collected and stored for decades, including in that bastion of freedom, the USA.

So they now want, as is standard in most western democracies, standardised retention periods for that data.

The calls are not being recorded and stored, just the connection data.

So watches those watching the watchers of the Watchmen??

Cam, do you remember what that ode refers to? Good example.

Hubert, who do you reckon caused all these resource hungry measures? The govs everywhere or the crims misusing our societies freedoms? Think about it b4 answering.
HubertCumberdale
Nov 2, 2010 3:26 PM
Maxxi2 wrote:
Loads of people seem to miss the simple fact that the data is already being cleected and stored by ISPs and always was...

blah blah blah

Hubert, who do you reckon caused all these resource hungry measures? The govs everywhere or the crims misusing our societies freedoms? Think about it b4 answering.

Yes there are SO many "crims misusing our societies freedoms" lol. The problem is neither the "govs" or the "crims" but the people that put up with these laws that are mostly redundant. The government has to look like it doing something and the clueless masses (like yourself) wanted to feel safe but they all ready are. The only thing these control freak laws achieve is making everyone paranoid.

btw I've rated your post 2/10. Points were deducted for appalling sentence structures and gross spelling mistakes. More points were deducted for the content though.
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