iiTrial appeal sets "high bar" for film studios

 

Not as easy as rights holders think.

Copyright owners may have celebrated too soon a series of steps laid out by judges in the iiTrial appeal that could force ISPs to address piracy allegations, according to Baker & McKenzie special counsel Anne Flahvin.

The appeal judgment in the case between ISP iiNet and the Australian Federation Against Copyright Theft (AFACT) found that disconnecting customers accused of internet piracy was a "reasonable step" if the film industry improved the notification it provided to ISPs, and funded ISPs to vet the data.

AFACT lauded the findings as "paving the way for ISPs to be held accountable for online infringements".

While agreeing the Federal Court had provided “some kind of roadmap” for copyright owners to make an ISP liable for an infringement, Flahvin questioned how useful that roadmap would be.

Addressing the Australian Digital Alliance’s Righting the Copyright Imbalance policy forum, Flahvin said that the evidentiary requirements were far higher and more complex than AFACT had made out.

The Court required rights holders to provide iiNet and other ISPs with “unequivocal and cogent evidence” of the primary acts of infringement - "a very high bar", according to Flahvin.

"The mere assertion of infringement with whatever particulars was not enough," she said.

The film studios' appeal failed because the notices provided to iiNet did not provide sufficient information to trigger an obligation to take any action to stop the infringements, the Court found.

The Court also suggested it would be necessary for movie owners to reimburse the ISP for the reasonable costs incurred to verify the information; to establish and maintain a regime to monitor for infringements; and to indemnify ISPs from any liability they might face as a result of wrongfully terminating the connections of their customers.

“That goes further than the Safe Harbour regime. It’s a very high burden,” Flahvin said.

“I can’t imagine that copyright owners are going to be terribly excited [about] being required to fully fund the searching and administrative steps that would be necessary in order to verify the allegations of infringement that they have made.”

While copyright owners had an important judgment that ISPs, under certain circumstances, did provide the means to infringe, the real focus was on whether ISPs had taken reasonable steps to prevent that infringement occuring.

“What the Court says is that it depends on the facts, the nature and quality of the information provided," Flahvin said.

She doubted movie companies would be satisfied with that outcome and tipped an appeal to the High Court before the deadline of 23 March.

Termination concerns

Australian Digital Alliance board member Kim Weatherall commented that the proportionality of terminating access could also be the next major issue for both ISPs and copyright owners.

 “At the time [Safe Harbour} provisions were being first drafted in 1997 in the US, no one was thinking of termination of internet service or that internet service would be the thing that it is now – basically the lifeline to the world,” Weatherall said.

Tom Cochrane, Deputy Vice Chancellor of Technology, Information and Learning Support at QUT noted the issue posed complexities for educational institutions if they were granted safe harbour protections.

“The penalty of withdrawal of terminating internet access to an individual in a university environment would be similar to expelling the student or dismissing a staff member. The world is so connected by that means,” Cochrane said.

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Comments: 22
David Havyatt
Mar 7, 2011 10:48 AM
Weatherall and Cochrane question the "proportionality" of denial of internet access as appropriate for copyright infringements. While I personally think the extension of the duration of copyright (the so-called Mickey Mouse provisions from the US) has become absurd, I happen to believe the general concept that we are talking about a kind of theft.

Actually having your access to the internet cut off is a heck of a lot lighter than the real legal penalties one faces from theft, including potential imprisonment.

One suggestion for the copyright holders would be to more properly resource a Burueau of Copyright Enforcement, get it empowered by the Government to "administer a law to impose pecuniary penalties" and then it can have all the powers available under the interception act to get the details it wants. Heck they could probably argue they are just protecting the public revenue by protecting GST revenue!

(see http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/cth/consol_act/taaa1979410/s5.html#enforcement_agency)
Tom Brown
Mar 7, 2011 11:19 AM
In Australia piracy is not clearly defined as illegal in the privacy of your home.
If AFACT can get the laws to accept the exclusion of safe harbour then the next step is the argument that piracy is not occurring within your home and AFACTs stakeholders will be able to prosecute people for downloads and AFACTs stakeholders will not have to prove the respondents guilty use as the record of download will be accepted in court as intention and evidence.

A bit like porn, if you go to child porn websites the intention is automatically assumed and the onus of proof that you neither looked at any material nor downloaded is entirely the responsibility of the respondent.
Res
Mar 7, 2011 11:27 AM
"Actually having your access to the internet cut off is a heck of a lot lighter than the real legal penalties one faces from theft, including potential imprisonment."

This is so true, a termination will never work, it inconveniences the offender for a "few days" only, whilst they get reconnected with another ISP, so terminations are useless.

If they want to send a message, they need to start prosecuting end users, it is the only way it "might" get the message through.
But they wont, because then they will come across as the bad bullies that they are, instead of them trying to make out the ISP's being the bully.
psandy
Mar 7, 2011 1:14 PM
Agreed it is theft. But AFACT is asking a non-law enforcement body to "punish" an individual for an offense that is "claimed" to have occurred. Where is the evidence? Where is legal due process? If their evidence is based on network intercepts on what legal basis were those intercepts made?

This is like the Pedestrian Council standing on the verge of the M2, deciding who they think is speeding and then demanding that the M2 ban that person from using the M2.

Lets face it, this is a commercial issue where an organisation is trying to artificially control a market to maintain pricing and have failed to convince law enforcment that the issue is worth pursuing. They, AFACT, are now trying to get a third party to impose conditions on the market that are at odds with the trends
legless
Mar 7, 2011 2:49 PM
"to indemnify ISPs from any liability they might face as a result of wrongfully terminating the connections of their customers"

Oh great. So say I have a business that relies on having an internet connection and for whatever reason my ISP wrongfully disconnects me because some movie company said I downloaded something I didn't. I wouldn't be able to claim any damages for my lost business or injury to my reputation. Hopefully I could then sue the movie company for damages but I'm assuming not. What a joke!

Also to call downloading a movie illegally theft is ridiculous. It's copyright infringement not copyright theft. If I stole their film masters it would be theft. If someone steals my car, it is theft as I no longer have it. If someone downloads a copy of a film the original is still there.

Even to say the movie company has been denied the sale of a copy of a film is wrong as chances are many people who download would never buy it anyway or pay to see it at a theatre.
legless
Mar 7, 2011 2:56 PM
It looks to me like the movie companies and record companies want the ISPs to do their work for them and bear all of the costs. It's like asking me to work as a security guard in your firm for free and supply my own uniforms.
pragmatic45
Mar 7, 2011 5:13 PM
@Havyatt appreciate your comments.

However I doubt whether the alleged copyright infringements - which are usually matters of civil rather than criminal law are covered by the Telecommunications (Interception and Access) Act implicit in your suggestion of a Bureau of Copyright having interception powers and more resources.
BigAussie
Mar 7, 2011 5:46 PM
If the AFACT supporters would simply allow a legal method for purchasing their products at a "reasonable" price, most of the piracy problem would simply vanish.

Look at the USA. As soon as services like Hulu and NetFlix are able to operate in Australia at the subscription level they provide, it will become much easier to hook up a set top box and watch whatever TV series or movies you want to for $10 per month.

While the Hollyhood studios remain determined to lock parts of the world away from each other and pretend the internet does not exist, they will have fans of TV shows and movie goers wanting to see a particular show "immediately" instead of waiting months or in some cases never.

Then again; they only have to wait for another few years and all PCs will have the next version of the "clipper" chip inside the CPU and users will not be able to download/watch anything the studios don't want you to watch. They can happily set their systems back to 1960 again. "the good old days....."


tallguy
Mar 7, 2011 9:25 PM
Wow. Great logic. The big bad studios "made" me download movies illegally. Hulu & NetFlix will save the world. Guess illegal downloads in the US have stopped now? Blah blah blah.

If you want something, pay for it. If you do something wrong, admit it was wrong. Don't blame somebody else (no matter how stupid they might be).
HubertCumberdale
Mar 8, 2011 12:46 AM
tallguy wrote:
Guess illegal downloads

Define "illegal downloads"
rycrozier
Mar 8, 2011 8:29 AM
At a guess, those downloads conducted outside of a distribution mechanism that is controlled or licensed by the rights holder of the work(s)?
Daveh
Mar 8, 2011 11:23 AM
rycrozier - so stuff that is no longer on sale in Australia is fair game? What about things that aren't even sold in Australia?
HubertCumberdale
Mar 8, 2011 12:17 PM
rycrozier wrote:
At a guess, those downloads conducted outside of a distribution mechanism that is controlled or licensed by the rights holder of the work(s)?

oh ok, I just always assumed it meant things like bestiality p0rns.
Ace
Mar 8, 2011 1:39 PM
@Daveh, I think the copyright and licensing treaties takes care of that. Although, there does seem to be a growing sentiment among individuals that they should be able to define their own rules governing copyright etc. If you look at Wikileaks, they claim they didn't break any law because they didn't steal any information. Using this logic, we just need one fall guy to pirate a movie, and everyone else can have it gratis. Sweet!
HubertCumberdale
Mar 8, 2011 2:40 PM
Ace wrote:
If you look at Wikileaks, they claim they didn't break any law because they didn't steal any information. Using this logic, we just need one fall guy to pirate a movie, and everyone else can have it gratis. Sweet!


Ace
Mar 8, 2011 5:39 PM
Although you image doesn't work @HC, the scenario still works. Documents were copied, movies were copied. What is stolen is IP.
HubertCumberdale
Mar 8, 2011 9:14 PM
Ace wrote:
Although you image doesn't work @HC, the scenario still works. Documents were copied, movies were copied. What is stolen is IP.

The image works fine (you should read the forum) and your misuse of the word stolen doesn't change facts... yeah keep pounding that square peg into the round hole eventually it might fit and if you are lucky you'll find someone who doesnt notice.
Mordd
Mar 8, 2011 10:44 PM
Having just recently gone back to study, its made me realise how essential my internet access is and having a working PC at home is, without I would be stuck in the on campus library 10+ hours a day trying to get work done, not a very appealing prospect when you are on a limited hours bus service connecting your home with your area of study. If my connection was disconnected on the basis of copyright infringement it would infringe my very ability to study and would indeed be akin to simply failing me in the course. Even if I have infringed copyright, aren't I entitled to a court process instead of just having my connection cut off? The fact is internet access has become an essential service in modern society. Would you say its ok to cut off my electricity too because that powered the computer I theoritically used to infringe copyright?
©commentator
Mar 9, 2011 10:32 AM
Mordd, people get their internet connections and electricity cut off everyday when they don't pay their bills. Copyright owners don't have the luxury of being able to cut off "supply" in the way ISPs and electricity companies can when their services are not paid for so they are forced to sue for copyright infringement.
blasdf
Mar 9, 2011 2:30 PM
if the service is used for something classed as "illegal" it doesn't matter if it impacts your life in other ways. criminals get records that impact other aspects of life, travel arrangements, what's the difference, they broke the law and face a penalty, it's harsh, but it's life.

i'm pretty confident the 3 strike system is one that I could see being implemented effectively. The UK government either uses it or wants to. you receive 3 warnings from ISP about illegal downloads, 3rd time you are black listed. works like a credit check, you get black listed in a central database that ISP's have to consult before offering you a service, you can't get the internet for 5 years etc.

sure your flat mates/friends/parents/partners could sign up, but would they risk it if it was a valid system like a credit check?? seeing the service is relied on, like credit is for life. at the end of the day, you can still live without net access at home.

and being a 3 strike system, it works like demerits for licenses. think of speeding. yeah you speed, don't give a stuff, on your P plates what ever. but if you get caught, you get a fines, get demirits, if you do it too much you loose your license. "oh but loosing my license impacts my life" TOUGH!! get over your self, it makes the world better to understand once you do.

what if i share my internet connection with flate mates....you all register your names and all get targetted. if someone is in your flat and they are blacklisted, tough, maybe it becomes a new selection criteria when you get flat mates.

really it's the only way to control it. ISP's don't have to worry too much, they simply issue a warning if anything is detected or they are alerted by the studios. users won't really question it because they know the system will be right, except the small % who like to dispute everything, parking tickets when they over parked, speeding fines when they speed, electricity bills....when they don't use power save on their A/C. that % of population exists with anything "it's not my fault, i didn't do anything" hahaha, i love those types.

good on iinet for getting off, really the CEO is right, the government needs to step in and actually make something effective that controls the psychology of internet usage, not try and blame an ISP when, what 10 other ISP's have users doing the same thing.
blasdf
Mar 9, 2011 2:33 PM
i should also mention i know a few people that had warnings from tpg or such for downloading, and every person was what i considered a leecher and they never disputed it, as they knew it was them downloading.
Desk
Mar 9, 2011 4:09 PM
The real issue here is that detecting illegal downloading isn't an exact science. These guys were able to get a printer detected for downloading files illegally.

http://dmca.cs.washington.edu/


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