Cloud customers risk collateral DDoS

 
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Are your operations safe from neighbours and their unwelcome visitors?

Organisations considering a move to the cloud should consider the "neighbourhood” and a provider’s ability to shield them from collateral risks, security experts have warned.

According to Arbor Networks chief scientist Craig Labovitz, collateral damage was a “tremendous issue” for carriers, cloud providers and their customers.

“We see many cases where an attack against a small co-located or hosted website will impact dozens or more of other unsuspecting sites that reside off the same switch or cluster,” Labovitz said.

“At a larger scale, carriers can lose entire cross-country links impacting thousands or millions of customers due to collateral damage from DDoS [distributed denial of service].”

Last December, domain name provider EveryDNS terminated its agreement with Wikileaks as it came under a sustained DDoS attack after leaking US embassy documents to the media.

The provider said the attacks on Wikileaks would “threaten the stability” of EveryDNS infrastructure and almost 500,000 customer sites.

In September, a DDoS attack by 'Anonymous' hackers on anti-piracy lobby group AFACT caused performance degradation for many other Australian websites.

The attack directed 60,000 active HTTP connections and 100 Mbps of additional bandwidth on webhost Netregistry's 'Zeus' cluster of servers that hosted the AFACT website.

Thousands of other websites on the cluster were affected, plus some webmail services and website administration consoles.

In separate discussions with iTnews.com.au, spokesmen for Microsoft Azure, Amazon Web Services and Salesforce.com downplayed the possibility of collateral damage on their clouds.

Amazon

Amazon spokesman Regina Tan said the company employed the same security isolations as those found in a traditional data centre, including physical security, network separation, server hardware and storage isolation (pdf).

Amazon provided each customer with individual firewalls to prevent intrusion from other instances, as well as packet-level isolation of network traffic and industry-standard encryption.

An additional virtual private cloud offering provided further protection by blocking unauthorised IP addresses. Further, Amazon’s scale allowed it to invest more heavily in policing and countermeasures than individual companies could afford, Tan said.

“There is nothing inherently at odds about providing on-demand infrastructure while also providing the security isolation companies have become accustomed to in their existing, privately-owned environments,” she said.

“We often find that we can improve companies’ security posture when they use Amazon Web Services.”

Microsoft

Microsoft’s chief security adviser Stuart Strathdee also highlighted economies of scale as an argument for how the cloud might improve, rather than harm, availability.

While “you can never say never” when considering security risks, Strathdee argued that Azure’s ability to monitor and address attacks was “unparalleled”.

“In an Azure environment, it really comes down to what Microsoft has, compared to what an organisation can do on their own,” he told iTnews.

“We’ve got extremely high levels of monitoring ... If they [attackers] were able to take a workload offline – and that’s a huge if – the alerts go out immediately.”

Explaining that the Azure environment was far from static, Strathdee said Microsoft frequently moved workloads between resource pools, data centres, and countries, to allow for maintenance, balance resources and defend against attacks.

Can public clouds be completely safe? Read on to page two for Salesforce.com's experience and why providers won't reveal who lives in your neighbourhood.

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Cloud customers risk collateral DDoS
"@BigAussie, I believe you might be confusing web server hosting with cloud computing. The two are really quite different. The only way you could tell if some site is close to your own is by ..."
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Comments: 2
BigAussie
Feb 26, 2011 12:09 AM
It's hardly rocket science to see who you are sharing the immediate server hardware with. Try using the following website - yougetsignal dotcom (slash) tools (slash) web-sites-on-web-server (sorry for all that rubbish to share the URL) -- no html allowed on here.

This site shows other domains on the same physical machine. From there you can search for the owner of the IP Address range and see if your data is living in a seedy area.

With hosting you really do get exactly what you pay for. Find hosting for $5 per month, for everything you can eat; and you can guarantee you will get exactly that much value :p Someone has to pay the bills.

We have had customers join us because they have come from slow hosting companies. We did reasearch and found the one piece of hardware and worse (the one IP Address) was hosting 2400+ other domains. In that mix were several adult sites; as well as other even nastier sites.

The internet is still like the wild west. Don't stay at seedy looking places that are too cheap. You might get much more than you bargained for.
Ace
Feb 26, 2011 9:29 PM
@BigAussie, I believe you might be confusing web server hosting with cloud computing. The two are really quite different. The only way you could tell if some site is close to your own is by checking the last route before hitting their server and seeing if it was the same as yours. This won't tell you if you're sharing the same physical server hardware, but sharing the router is just as bad in DDOS.
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