Backhaul providers lobby against NBN POI proposal

 

Industry polarised over centralised approach.

Australian backhaul providers have cried foul over NBN Co's proposal to offer 14 aggregate points of interconnect (POI) to its nationwide fibre network.

NBN Co proposed a "composite" approach, in which it would provide consolidated POIs in Sydney, Melbourne, Brisbane, Adelaide and Perth, and "the opportunity to connect" at 195 connectivity serving areas.

The approach was expected to best serve the Government's plans to provide network access in both metropolitan and rural areas at the same price.

But it was heavily criticised in submissions to an ACCC discussion paper by AAPT, Nextgen Networks, Optus, PIPE Networks, Telstra and the Competitive Carriers Coalition (CCC) for reducing competition in backhaul markets.

Dark fibre provider PIPE Networks said the POI aggregation models "in effect give away free backhaul for NBN services", thereby ending investment in backhaul networks in Australia.

While it took no issue with aggregating traffic from uncompetitive areas, PIPE objected to the "unnecessary stranding of its network" by excessive and unwarranted aggregation.

Nextgen told the ACCC that the consolidated approach would leave it with "significant stranded assets". It currently had 17,000 kilometres of fibre optic cable in all mainland States and Territories.

Decreased competition may not only hinder innovation, but also raise - rather than lower - retail prices for consumers, carriers wrote.

Additionally, a national uniform wholesale price may not necessarily lead to national retail price parity, according to the CCC, which noted that retail service providers would still need to acquire inter-capital transmission to connect to interstate and international peering points.

The coalition recommended that NBN Co investigate other means of achieving price parity, including direct retail regulation, wholesale pricing regulation and subsidies.

Telstra too backed the establishment of subsidies for privately funded backhaul infrastructure, or a backhaul blackspots scheme, to address geographic price parity issues.

"Where there are prospects of competition, public funds are better invested in assisting the private sector to deploy competing infrastructure than in funding a publicly owned monopoly," the telco wrote.

Telstra, which operated the lion's share of Australian backhaul, also called for NBN Co to align itself to "international best practice", which required access providers to provide points of interconnect "where it is technically and operationally feasible".

Meanwhile, AAPT delivered a scathing submission to the regulator, speculating that NBN Co's proposal was "not supported by any apparent analysis or logic", and was not "based on proper industry consultation".

"[AAPT] seriously questions the thinking behind a decision to use taxpayer's money to significantly damage the backhaul market for what appears to be a marginal (if any) competitive benefit in the retail market," it wrote.

Some support for consolidated approach

Carriers like Optus, VHA and TPG backed a "low consolidation" approach, calling for the establishment of up to 400 or 500 points of interconnect.

NBN Co expected a fully distributed, "no consolidation" approach to involve 718 to 950 POIs, with one located at every fibre serving area. It did not provide an estimate for "low consolidation".

Meanwhile, the composite approach drew the support of Internode and Primus, which expected the 14 POI proposal to "best deliver the Government's uniform pricing ambition, while also enhancing the prospect for genuine competition".

"The Government ... now has an opportunity to create once and for all a level playing field, and NBN Co should not shy away from that ambition," Primus wrote.

"While Primus acknowledges there may be some initial objection from opportunists or those in the industry seeking to preserve their market power, Primus submits the decision on POIs must be based on the long term interest of end users."

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Backhaul providers lobby against NBN POI proposal
"As the article said, NBNCo has previously published scenarios involving 14 POIs, hundreds, or something in between. It has now said its preference is for 14, which is incidentally one more than ..."
By umbria
 
 
 
Comments: 6
TheAdvisor
Nov 11, 2010 6:05 PM
Here you go major back haul providers a box of tissues for your troubles.

The very lot shielded by the TIO and any form of accountability on pricing.

Oh boo hoo the fact someone might cut they're lunch un thinkable let alone the govt.

And once again rather than do the right thing and realise progress is catching up with them also.

No be bullish like the banks and say ok fine customer must once again pay.

Thats all we ever hear from those playing all mighty comms providers.

If you can't handle the heat get out of the kitchen.

Fancy the govt wanting to make money and not just spend it on these (censored).

Fancy anyone residential or SOHO etc getting a better deal Unheard Of stop talking such herecy.

Because i don't earn a corporate salary working for these prats i can say that.
asmodai
Nov 12, 2010 12:30 AM
Typical ignorant drivel.

These guys are the ones that invested their own money to provide alternatives, where possible and able to generate a return, to Telstra to try and increase competition and reduce prices while both the Liberal and Labor governments sat on their hands. Not to be misconstrued with true altruism, but the side effect was that 3rd party backhaul providers have done great things for the market in general. No one, absolutely no one, is going to invest when they have been virtually made redundant by Conjob's dog and pony show...

Which sends a horrible message to others looking to invest in Australia re: sovereign risk and exposes the government to enormous amounts of liability/compensation when they strand existing assets.

As for better deals, how far in the sand is your head buried? Quotas are skyrocketing and value is increasing in leaps and bounds. If you weren't so stuck in your dole bludger hand out dependent mentality you'd recognise that. How dare anyone try to make a living by providing a service at a reasonable price... /eyeroll
Rossyduck
Nov 12, 2010 2:46 AM
And yet another vibrant self funded sector falls to State meddling - with taxpayers having to step into the breach and once again pick up the tab, and existing employees likely to be retrenched. First brownfields, then Greenfields, what next ?. There has to be beter way. It appears that even Telstra is uncomfortable despite their $11 billion hush money.

On the other hand the engineer in me says transmission capablities are now so embedded into the FttH equipment (with self healing rings, multi Gbps modules) that it is in fact difficult to de-integrate them, and what about the small startup needing national access and forced onto NBN Co as no other acces is available anymore ?. Can they afford multiple POI's ?
Francis
Nov 12, 2010 7:47 AM
What a self serving load of drivel. At various times in this countries past we have been held back by the same sort of self interest. Take the railways as a typical example with different gauges in every state. How much is that egg costing to unscramble. The reality is that there is a place for competition and a place for consolidation where you obtain economies of scale. The NBN is one typical case where given our large land mass and relatively small population, economies of scale become the pre-eminent factor. There is only room for one carrier on this continent as additional carriers will instead of driving cost down will instead drive it up due to the duplication of equipment and services leading to additional unused capacity.
These self serving wingers should get out of the way along with the ACCC in the best interest of the country and its residents.
deteego
Nov 12, 2010 10:22 AM
Francis wrote:
What a self serving load of drivel. At various times in this countries past we have been held back by the same sort of self interest. Take the railways as a typical example with different gauges in every state.

This problem doesn't apply for backhaul, try again

Francis wrote:

How much is that egg costing to unscramble. The reality is that there is a place for competition and a place for consolidation where you obtain economies of scale. The NBN is one typical case where given our large land mass and relatively small population, economies of scale become the pre-eminent factor.

That is somewhat hyprocritical if the NBN is proposing a POI scheme that wastes all our current backhaul which our own private industry put money into in order to provide internet for our large country.

The amount of reduplication that NBNCo is going to do is eye gouging, its actually making the situation worse not better. We already have cheap prices and competition in backhaul, TPG offering $60 unlimited is only happening because they own their own backhaul (PIPE) around Australia

Francis wrote:

There is only room for one carrier on this continent as additional carriers will instead of driving cost down will instead drive it up due to the duplication of equipment and services leading to additional unused capacity.
These self serving wingers should get out of the way along with the ACCC in the best interest of the country and its residents.

I almost fell of my chair when I read this

There is no tangible cost difference in using different POI's, its actually cheaper for NBNCo as they don't have to worry about maintaining their own back haul. Private companies already have backhaul around Australia, all of the capital is already paid for. This will drive internet prices up massively, not down. I mean when you think about it, there isn't even a POI in Tasmania. That means an RSP is forced to connect at some city (lets say Melbourne), and so all the internet traffic that Tasmania is going to use, will have to be relayed from Melbourne (where the RSP) to Tasmania and then back to melbourne again (and then finally send the data where its supposed to go)

This POI scheme is only done because Conroy wants to enforce a socialist government monopoly on telecommunications as far as possible. Unfortunately if Conroy doesn't compromise, well you can wave your hands good-buy to either NBN or decent internet prices

Edited by deteego: 12/11/2010 10:28:14 AM
umbria
Nov 12, 2010 1:10 PM
As the article said, NBNCo has previously published scenarios involving 14 POIs, hundreds, or something in between. It has now said its preference is for 14, which is incidentally one more than the 13 POIs Telstra offers to its ADSL network.

The media loves a beatup, but commonsense will prevail in their industry discussions, and where operational or economic benefits would accrue from turning on additional POIs in regional areas, I'm sure this will happen. I expect the fibre backhaul owners will also ultimately get their commercial return by leasing unused fibre backhaul to NBNCo instead of retailing it to ADSL customers.
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