Telstra's long road to customer satisfaction

 

Opinion: When everything old is new again.

David Havyatt
David Havyatt
David Thodey's focus on customer service isn't a new initiative for Telstra. So what's holding the telco back from providing the type of service its customers demand? David Havyatt explores.

At Telstra's recent Investor Day, chief executive David Thodey reaffirmed his quest to provide better customer service.

"We really need to change what Telstra is, what it stands for. It needs to become a customer centric driven culture, not just an engineering culture, and that's a big change to go through," he told analysts [PDF].

All of Telstra's customers, and probably the customers of most of their competitors, would be pleased to see that happen. At times, customers really do seem to be taken for granted by the telcos.

But is being "customer centric" really a new innovation?

The answer is no. Telstra has been down this path before.

A bit of history

In 2005, at the Business Council of Australia annual dinner, a gentleman at my table was expounding on the issues confronting Telstra. I didn't recognise his name, but his tag said he was from Telstra. I later discovered he was a director.

He was explaining to the table that Telstra needed to change from an engineering-driven organisation to a sales and marketing driven one. This was apparently a key task for the recently appointed CEO, one Sol Trujillo. I expressed surprise that Telstra was still engineering driven.

 I recalled to him a presentation called Marketing Orientation in Telecom Australia, prepared in 1989 by the late Luke Bozza, then a General Manager in Telecom's Corporate Customer Division.

This document divided the history of Telecom into four eras, each with a separate orientation.

  • From 1901 to 1975 was the Engineering Era with the orientation of build the network.
  • From 1975 to 1980 was the Operations Era of connecting customers to the network.
  • From 1980 to 1987 was the Sales Era with an orientation on selling terminal equipment and the network.
  • And the last period, the Marketing Era, was listed as "1987 - " with a need to "match product and service offerings to the current and future needs of customers".

The breaks between each era aligned to major reviews. The move from engineering to operations was a consequence of the Vernon committee which also created the separate Telecom Australia and Australia Post structures.

The sales era followed largely from the National Customer Service and Sales Operations Review conducted by AT&T International. This 1982 report said "top management should commit Telecom to a corporate sales philosophy which changes the organisation from a passive service provider to an active selling enterprise".

In 1986, the report Telecom and Competitive Advantage concluded that Telecom "must adopt a strategy of focussing on the respective customer sectors and designing its operations within the framework of these sectors [and] must manage its customer focused strategy in accordance with the principles of a competitive infrastructure, especially the organisation principle of structures that are small, divisionalised, nationally managed, functionally integrated and autonomous/accountable". From this the customer-facing division structure emerged, which was largely retained after the merger with OTC in 1992.

That's almost three decades of consecutive reports with much the same conclusions as Thodey makes today.

And back to the present...

Why, if changes were demanded all those years ago, is Telstra needing to change to be "customer driven"?

It certainly isn't a structural issue, as today there are some seven Group Managing Directors at Telstra with responsibility for "customer facing" divisions and only one Chief Operating Officer in charge of all the technology.

There are at least two big forces actively working against the avowed intent of Telstra's management. The first is the nature of the industry and the fact that competition doesn't work the way theory says it does. The second is a misconception of the purpose of companies.

In both its Investor Day presentation [PDF] and its submission to the ACMA's inquiry Reconnecting the Customer [PDF], Telstra identified the complexity of products as a major inhibitor to good customer service.

But Telstra can't solve the complexity problem alone. The complexity of products is driven by a number of marketing practices, including limiting the ability of customers to make comparisons, and the practice of bundling.

Unfortunately these practices work in acquiring customers. If Telstra simplifies its product offerings it might be able to improve customer service, but it will lose market share.

The only solution for improved customer service is cooperative action to simplify products. But despite the ACCC sharing the concern of Telstra and its customers over product complexity, the ACCC might potentially think that discussions across industry on how to simplify offerings would amount to collusion.

Even if the ACCC is prepared to accept the collusion for the benefit of consumers, the lawyers inside the telcos will scare the regulatory, customer service, marketing and senior executive teams into believing they can't have this conversation.

The other difficulty for Telstra is that while they talk of the culture as if it is a choice between being customer centric or engineering driven, the company itself continues to believe that the purpose of the firm is to create shareholder value.

The origins of this belief are deeply buried in the economic theory of the principal-agent problem. But it bears no relationship to the history of the concept of a company, nor how individual companies are usually formed.

Companies come into being because someone identifies a need that can be satisfied only by the cooperative action of a number of people. The earliest companies were funding highly risky trading voyages. The next were "corporations" that undertook major civil projects like building water and sewerage systems. Modern companies undergo the same process. Your average ISP came to be because the people running it saw the need for people to gain access to the internet.

To get shareholders to commit money and employees to commit labour you have to promise them a return on and of their capital and payment for their labour respectively. Creating shareholder value is a means to the end of meeting the needs for which the company was formed.

The misconception is assuming that the creation of shareholder value comes at the expense of customer service. In the mid 1980s, Telecom Australia recognised the need to change its culture and launched the Vision 2000 project. A part of that program was the adoption of three core values;

Customers come first.

Business success builds our future.

Our people make it happen.

These are three mutually supportive values.

Telstra really can change its culture, and change the outcomes for customers, investors and staff alike.

To do so they have to remember the slogan from the "change management" era of the 1980s:

If what you are doing isn't working, try anything else.

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Telstra's long road to customer satisfaction
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Comments: 20
marcusg
Oct 29, 2010 1:21 PM
The fundemental problem is stated in the third last paragraph - 'Telstra really can change its culture, and change the outcomes for customers, investors and staff alike.'

Staff are stated last. I would have put investors first, but anyway, staff are the core asset of any organisation. If they are not working in a team, have faith in management, are not scared for their jobs (even if they are excellent workers, another 950 jobs to go, lets outsource), are not in a constant state of organisational change, then you have a disfunctional organisation.

The other issue Telstra has faced is one of monopoly. This allows for arrogance and laziness since there is no competition, no reason to change, no capacity to bother.

To change that culture is very hard indeed. But at least in 30 years the mantra has not changed. Maybe with organisation splitting and the NBN we may see a new era.
BrettWinterford
Oct 29, 2010 2:02 PM
@marcusg - I don't know there is much that an outsider can do to influence Telstra's internal working culture. But I am interested in readers' thoughts on the industry "colluding" to make services less complicated...
scan06disk
Oct 29, 2010 2:56 PM
@marcusg Investors are of no use if Customers aren't present..., the Staff are dependent on both the Customers & Investors, but remember Customers are first in any Business Hierarchy, Not the Investors !

Without customers wanting a product investors will never show up and once they do, they become hungry DOGs and grow EGOs, demanding superior hierarchy over customers and sacrifice customer satisfaction !

Once you lose Customers you shall realize your demise ! ;)
realitybites
Oct 29, 2010 3:04 PM
@marcusg - uhmm no, it was right first time. Customers come first.

Unhappy customers take their business elsewhere (when possible) this leads to cranky investors which leads to pressure from managers applied to staff, which leads to unhappy staff which leads to unhappy customers. See where I'm going here?




Edited by realitybites: 29/10/2010 03:25:15 PM
Perdix
Oct 29, 2010 4:09 PM
to paraphrase ( badly) Peter Drucker, "the role of a business is to win and retain customers".
One of the problems that Telstra, and other companies in this industry face, is that they perceive themselves as in the technology business, when in reality they are in a service industry. Once you understand that you are in a service industry, you can seriously address the issue of winning and retaining customers. If you convince yourself that you are in the technology business, then thats where you will put your focus.
Have a look at what gets measured, that gives a good clue as to what business a company thinks they are in.
marcusg
Oct 29, 2010 5:52 PM
Perhaps I should clarify. Of course customers are important. But without staff to service them, you have no customers. It is a balancing act to provide good outcomes for investors, who rightly deserve a dividend, customers who want to be served well with fair prices and products and staff who truly believe that management support them, treat them well, trust them and train them.

Profitable businesses in this world either have a monopoly, so the customer has nowhere else to go - so who cares about the customer, or those who treat their staff well, which translates into happy customers who willingly refer that business to other customers and so on...

If the customer is priority, why has Telecom/Telstra tried for 30 years to get this happening, and seemingly failed, that it remains its focus today?

Perhaps it is time to start something different like treat their staff differently?

@realitybites

Why are customers unhappy in the first place? The CEO is not usually selling stuff to them; it’s the front line staff. If the customers are unhappy, then you can be pretty sure the staff are unhappy. Now why are the staff unhappy...?

Anyway, I'm putting my soapbox away now....
realitybites
Oct 29, 2010 6:36 PM
"Perhaps it is time to start something different like treat their staff differently? "

Agreed, but they will need another 30 years to talk about it first ;)
deteego
Oct 29, 2010 6:44 PM
Well the thing is, having too many bureaucratic/middleman does actually chew all through your money and provides little returns. If that is the actual reason (or one of the main reasons) why Telstra is losing money, well unfortunately this stuff happens

And Telstras customer service has been improving, I would actually rate it higher then TPG now
Oldsniper
Oct 29, 2010 10:46 PM
Actually its the customer first as they pay the bills and profit
Staff is 2nd as without staff one cannot provide service to the customer/client, Staff need to feel secure and that they are worthwhile in the job to get the most productivity from them.
Investors come in at 3rd in buying shares that help in the running of the company.
A customer centric company was always out do an investor centric company by a massive margin.
avt
Oct 30, 2010 2:46 AM
Another 950 jobs to go, and Mr. Thodey is finally realizing "customer first". Simple - keep the customers satisfied, get the money into the busines to pay the staff and they keep doing the job, and the inverstors are happy too.
avt
Oct 30, 2010 2:48 AM
its taken 30 yrs. for Telstra to realize "cusotmer first", hope it doesnt take another 30 to figure out "how", because they are certainly struggling with it currently.
X_Selectar
Oct 30, 2010 9:18 AM
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From 1901 to 1975 was the Engineering Era with the orientation of build the network.
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From 1975 to 1980 was the Operations Era of connecting customers to the network.
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From 1980 to 1987 was the Sales Era with an orientation on selling terminal equipment and the network.
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And the last period, the Marketing Era, was listed as "1987 - " with a need to "match product and service offerings to the current and future needs of customers".

Yes, that was a great plan before the computerisation tech explosion demanded people to participate in a complex buy up of gizmo's which come out so regularly that any, and many Businesses are very much in hot water about what solutions in Engineering, and infrastructure are beating them in to too many decisions, whith little time to understand products, markets, and train staff to comprehend the product, so it can be sold in a knowing way. Too much going on at present, greed driven from all factions, which is human nature.
mozza
Oct 30, 2010 4:24 PM
I need a replacement modem, which is still covered under warranty. It took two days of phone calls, but finally I was promised one in 3-5 working days. I phoned on the 6th working day and was shunted between the same two departments a total of 8 times - I am not exaggerating. I know it was 8 times because when I called the complaints line he confirmed this. He managed to fix the problem and informed me the order had in fact been cancelled Monday just gone and he was now re-ordering the modem which I will receive in another 5-6 working days.

The only way I was able to untangle this was by completely dismissing everything customer service in Technical Support and Activations were telling me and going to the Complaints line.

My problem took 12 phone calls, around 5 hours of my time and by the time I get my replacement modem I will have paid for two weeks of internet access that I did not actually have.

Now, I am paid approx $55 per hour and we all know what bigpond costs - I figure I am owed around $350 in loss of time and revenue. Who will reimburse me, thanks to the customer service standards of Telstra?
allinacrook
Oct 30, 2010 4:56 PM
Really a educative and informative post, the post is good in all regards,I am glad to read this post.
scan06disk
Oct 31, 2010 1:00 AM
@marcusg you still dnt get it ? lol

#1 (Stupid/Helpless/Wealthy)Customers Buy Product -- COMPANY SELL RIPOFF PRODUCTS -- Investors FUND COMPANY -- PAY STAFF wages...

#2 Customers (Loyalty/HAPPINESS) -- Company Staff Services(Improve/Worsen) -- Funded by Investors -- Affects STAFF (Environment/Numbers)...

Take Out or LOSE Customers, lose Money and lose Investors, like wise lose 950 STAFF, SIMPLE COMPRONDO ?? ;)
Ace
Nov 1, 2010 1:25 AM
@scan06disk - I'm not sure I understand your sms text style message, or exactly what a 'SIMPLE COMPRONDO' is. Could you perhaps write it out in forum style so that simple folk like myself can understand what the point you're trying to make is? Thanks.
saffa83
Nov 1, 2010 2:23 AM
it has nothing to do with simplifying products. It comes down to the attitude of the staff, I have had enough of telstra and when my contract is up I am leaving them. briefly what has happened, after trying to get my broadband disconnected some 4 years ago I get a letter from a debt collector, saying I owe them $450 anyway long story short after getting handballed around to 7 customer support people in numerous departments, someone finally fixes it. but to top it off after writing a letter of complaint to them I get a phone call from a complaints person, who obviously does not give a dam if i stay with them or not, literally I asked him what he thought about the fact that I am leaving he said" well thats up to you, there may be some good deals which will change your mind" if they really want to change peoples opinion of them they need to get the call centres out of india, we know its for them to cut costs, but yet they have such huge profits in the billions on dollars, where the ceo's get paid enough to feed a small country in africa for a year. I am sick and tired of getting raped by every single corporation! phone, power, water, government. what happened to fair dinkum.
tallguy
Nov 1, 2010 2:51 AM
Why argue if customers, staff or investors are most important? The key is balance. Successful companies balance the needs of all stakeholders to achieve an optimal outcome.

Also, as pointed out above, the degree to which each of these stakeholders are successfully managed can in any case have a positive impact on the other other stakeholders (e.g. the argument that happy staff make happy customers who spend lots of money and make happy investors - just be careful to realise that this can turn into a chicken & egg argument if you want to justify which stakeholder is most important).
scan06disk
Nov 2, 2010 3:25 PM
@Ace u've always been a troll and u will never change....
Read UP^^ before u post...
Ace
Nov 2, 2010 4:08 PM
I did. But thanks for your note, it's a lot clearer that I realise some of your keyboard is broken.
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