A-G: Filter won't drive users to encryption

 

Attorney General's Dept backs Conroy's filter plan.

The Attorney-General's Department does not expect to see a rise in the number of users encrypting internet traffic streams to avoid detection by ISP-level filters, according to written responses to questions posed by The Greens.

Greens ICT spokesman Scott Ludlam posted a series of responses yesterday to questions taken on notice by various departments and authorities at Senate Committees held prior to the election.

The responses focused on the Government's planned introduction of internet filtering in Australia, which was currently on hold pending the outcome of an inquiry into refused classification (RC) guidelines.

Among the responses was a rejection by the Attorney-General's department to fears that the introduction of filters would encourage more people to encrypt traffic to and from their networks in an attempt to avoid detection or to access and share contentious or illicit material.

Use of encryption could pose difficulties for law enforcement agencies monitoring or accessing internet traffic streams as part of their jobs.

"The Attorney-General's Department has advised that it has no evidence that an internet filter would increase the volume of encrypted internet traffic," the statement read.

"The [Australian Federal Police] has [also] confirmed that they do not forsee any significant operational issues posed by filtering."

Law enforcement agencies and the Australian Communications and Media Authority (ACMA) would likely be exempt from mandatory filters.

"Provision will be made for organisations with a legitimate work requirement to access an unfiltered service," another response to Ludlam read.

Tourists and other visitors connecting to Australian data services would, however, be subjected to a filtered stream.

"Our technical advice suggests that in most circumstances the visitor to Australia would receive a filtered service because they would connect through a network in Australia," another response said.

"When an Australian uses a roaming internet connection overseas, the service is usually provided by the internet service provider's (ISP's) overseas roaming partner.

"In this case, the Australian would receive a filtered service only if such a service is received by all of the ISP's customers in that country."

The questions also touched on a secret ISP filtering online forum held in April this year.

The Department of Broadband, Communications and the Digital Economy (DBCDE) was in the process of "preparing a report to the Minister [Stephen Conroy] on the forum," the department said in a response.

"A decision on the public release of the report will be made by the Minister after he has received a copy of the report," the department said.

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A-G: Filter won't drive users to encryption
"As I suspected all along. The AG's office, as with most government organisations, is staffed by morons who cannot think for themselves!"
By epimetheus
 
 
 
Comments: 13
Sams
Oct 5, 2010 12:23 PM
"The Attorney-General's Department has advised that it has no evidence that an internet filter would increase the volume of encrypted internet traffic,"

Sees no evil (with hands over its eyes).
benben
Oct 5, 2010 1:08 PM
When they say "does not expect to see a rise in the number of users encrypting internet traffic streams to avoid detection by ISP-level filters", how do they know people are "encrypting internet traffic streams". Usually a proxy server prevents people from tracking you in the first place, so where do they get this information from?
Daveh
Oct 5, 2010 1:14 PM
The AG has shown no regard for the privacy of Australians in past recommendations, why would it prejudice itself now?

Moreover where have they looked for the evidence they have not found??
schneider
Oct 5, 2010 1:35 PM
I have a VPN connection for many reason but I know quite a lot of my friends will be getting one if the filter comes in. The Attorney-General's Department is straight out lying! $50 a year for piece of mind is well and truely worth it. If the government decides to force ISPs to store data then my company will get the same vpn connections. If an increase wasn't likely why are VPN companies having Australian specials and noting the filter? Another example of a government hiding secrets! I thought they were going to be open now! (I always knew that wouldn't be the case)
RaTTyRaTT
Oct 5, 2010 2:27 PM
Oh Bloody Hell.

These idiots are becoming waaaaay too much. Ahaha, I laugh at the morons who voted these idiots in (must flock together...) I know I will be using VPN, along with TOR and anything else I can find to make sure that I can still access any legitimate sites - after all = 1% false positives on 1 million sites is still 10,000 sites blocked accidentally. Fixed blacklist never works - I am in IT security, and frankly this is the most pitiful & stupid concept that has ever been thought about. I hate to say it but Corny (nee: Conroy) is soo far in deep that he will do anything to get his agenda across.

What next, mind control? The AG's won't buck the trend, and I know many AFP who disagree with that official line - but I can say honestly, they're not going to buck the official line - or else they'd be shown the exit.

What's worse is that - again they have no idea what they're filtering. Officially if this is 'objectionable' content, then how is Porn = RC? In some states X rated is fine, in others it's not... do we filter by state policy, least restrictive or most restrictive? Are we filtering out RC content or legal stuff? Porn is objectionable to kids = but still legal.

Not to mention - if we are after the real nasty stuff... OMG from our research, it's not even transmitted over the WWW net anyway, especially using endpoints that are traceable. Conroy: DO the WORLD a favour and go peddle this crap to the penguins - they're probably against Penguin porn, and baby penguin crap...
I am frankly angry that even the fact I take an opposing view, means they are trying to tar anyone in opposition as someone with something to hide. (Deflect, deny, confuse and toss in little bits of truth with lies...) I think Conjob has been taking lessons from Joseph Goebbels = maybe they're related!!!

Tired of this crap, go find a hole and disappear please. Any more of this and I will be looking at the most public statement I can legally do (aka: offering a CLEAN FEED ((unfiltered)) to as many as possible...) hah -Connie, suck my....((censored...)) bummer!!!
RJ
Oct 5, 2010 5:42 PM
$50 a year for a VPN service, schneider? What provider do you use?
grumpybug
Oct 5, 2010 8:58 PM
"The [Australian Federal Police] has [also] confirmed that they do not forsee any significant operational issues posed by filtering."

WOW, there's wonderfully vague statement. So what does that mean? I take it as the AFP will still be able to order their doughnuts online once the filter is in place.
Pilotyoda
Oct 5, 2010 10:33 PM
Does this mean the AFP wont be able to have clean-feed, or are they exempt from censorship?
Of course, there wont be much encryption. The scum bag child abusers don't use www protocols, so they don't need it.
On the other hand, i might as if i send a private message to a friend, or my loved ones, I expect it to be just that.
rycrozier
Oct 6, 2010 7:26 AM
They would come under "law enforcement agencies" i.e. exempt.
EMwyres
Oct 6, 2010 8:24 AM
The funniest part of this is that for the most part, the people who are currently trading in the material the filter will purport to block, are already using VPN technology to cover their tracks.

A filter that costs $45m of taxpayers money to "block" traffic they can't block.

[sarcasm]
There's a sensible use of financial resources!
[/sarcasm]
longsword
Oct 6, 2010 9:04 AM
good to see that the AG has their head firmly in the Sand like conboy.

Everyone I know uses encryption at least for P2P and any friends that ask I show them how.

anonymous
Oct 6, 2010 12:42 PM

Yes, it does seem the AG has no option but to agree with the unholy writ from Conboy & Co.

They all have solidarity. From ear to ear.
epimetheus
Oct 10, 2010 5:06 PM
As I suspected all along. The AG's office, as with most government organisations, is staffed by morons who cannot think for themselves!
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