Windsor challenges Gillard on NBN price tag

 

Independents want NBN costs broken down into bite-sized pieces.

Independent MP Tony Windsor has challenged the Gillard government to provide "the real figure" for its broadband plan for Australia.

Windsor, one of five independent MP's likely to shape the leadership of the next Federal Government, told the National Press Club in Canberra that the $43 billion price tag for Labor's NBN plan is little more than a  "figure that's bandied about."

Windsor said he would like more information about the $43 billion price tag.

"I haven't seen the real number," the member for New England said. "In fact, I think it's fictitious. We want to find out what the real number is. There should be a trail that leads us to that."

Windsor spoke at the Press Club in a joint address with fellow independents Rob Oakeshott and Bob Katter as well as new Greens MP Adam Bandt.

One of the first areas to be connected to the NBN is Armidale, a regional centre in Windsor's northern New South Wales electorate.

Afterwards, Katter warned that he was not satisfied with the Coalition's broadband plans.

"Outside of the metropolitan areas, we've had a dreadful experience with privatisation," Mr Katter said.

"We've had a dreadful experience with privatisation and they can give us all the undertakings in the world. Really when you go to a privatised scheme, the cities will get everything and [regional areas will] get nothing.

"Privatisation is the great worry for me in the Coalition's approach. The Telstra privatisation has been an absolute disaster. It doesn't matter how you look at it - this has been an absolute disaster for Australia. I can give you example after example. So we don't want a repeat of that with broadband and that would worries me greatly. "

The opposition leader Tony Abbott suggested yesterday that he might be able to allay some of the independents' concerns on the state of regional telecommunications.

Abbott said he was confident that there is more than enough capacity in the Coalition's broadband policy to deliver the kind of improved services regional MPs would want.

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Windsor challenges Gillard on NBN price tag
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"@MerariSchroeder "The independents want the information behind that assessment." Maybe they could download it from the same place as I and the rest of the world can download it from. Or maybe ..."
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Comments: 12
HubertCumberdale
Aug 25, 2010 5:25 PM
This guy should be PM.
Ace
Aug 25, 2010 11:56 PM
Make you wonder if these people ever read stuff already published. $43 billion is the governments budget. The KPMG and McKinsey study suggests the actual cost will be around $33 billion.
Spookytooth
Aug 26, 2010 9:41 AM
I’m astounded if the only real crises we have in Australia at the moment , should we or should we not go ahead with the NBN well then hallelujah independents your focus is well guided. I thought there were more pressing issues that they could use to influence their power how quickly we forget and focus shifts , oh ok so maybe with a high speed network it will fix everything else like illegal’s on boats ................ don’t figure
Rossyduck
Aug 26, 2010 11:06 AM
Lets hope the independents look at other options than the NBN Co model to bring about broadband. Abott has his blackspots and backhaul program, lets hope he also fixes the legislation. Interesting way the US is approaching it - setting in place broadband stimulus plan and getting private sector to motivate for funding/ low interest loans to build out underserved areas.
meski
Aug 26, 2010 12:15 PM
The "confidence" of a man who admits that he doesn't really know what he's talking about, technically. Yes, that really reassures me.
MerariSchroeder
Aug 26, 2010 12:58 PM
"The KPMG and McKinsey study suggests the actual cost will be around $33 billion."
The independents want the information behind that assessment.

"that he doesn't really know what he's talking about, technically"
He doesn't need a deep understanding of technology, after all he's only the face of the party, not the brains trust.

He just needs to make good decisions based on evidence.
umbria
Aug 26, 2010 1:12 PM
It's great that we will finally see the superficial throwaway numbers produce for media consumption finally laid bare on the public record, on all big-ticket undertakings, not just the NBN (which should be remembered is spread over at least twice the normal four years of forward estimates).

The KPMG numbers are probably in the right ballpark, but the ALP refusal to do any kind of cost-benefit study will now come to an end. Even though the biggest social and economic benefits of ubiquitous fibre can be listed but will not be numerically quantifiable, they are still benefits and capable of being assessed to justify the expenditure.

Expect an awful lot of rubbery numbers across the board, folks.
muzza2009
Aug 26, 2010 5:59 PM
@meski: since when did any pollies come from a carrier-class network techie background anyway? He is spot on re: "any numpty can write 43bn on the back of a ciggie packet... show me how you get to that figure, so I can see who is taking the piss".

@umbria: use any condiment you like with numbers from McKinsey and KPMG, as even 33bn has a significant amount of bloat in it. Also, ubiquitous fibre has benefits in the long term, but cost-benefit arguments based on projected intangibles in undefined timeframes don't wash and are almost indefensible.
wwwalker
Aug 26, 2010 6:08 PM
I reckon this is great news for rural areas like Orange NSW where the bandwidth both mobile and ADSL is way under Sydney. The big companies will never do anything. The Govt is the best bet.
ITnovice
Aug 26, 2010 9:23 PM
Bob Katter may be a mad hatter, but atleast he recognises that broadband is important and that the privatisation model would need a lot of work before it could be effective. Both plans will probably need some amendment, no matter which one is chosen.
johnpro2
Aug 27, 2010 9:20 AM
The cost of such a large enterprise resource plan{ERP} would be difficult to cost accurately ..however staging is an option ..providing the technology does not become obsolete.
Jp
Ace
Aug 27, 2010 1:23 PM
@MerariSchroeder "The independents want the information behind that assessment."

Maybe they could download it from the same place as I and the rest of the world can download it from. Or maybe they're country folk, and don't have the bandwidth?
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