Optus seeks court ruling on meaning of "unlimited" internet

 

Consumers understand it doesn't mean speed, telco claims.

Optus has amended advertisements for its "unlimited" internet and phone bundles but will pursue a Federal Court declaration that "unlimited" in the context of the internet wasn't understood by consumers to refer to the "speed" of connection.

The telco had previously marketed an "unlimited home phone and broadband bundle" that included 50 GB of "superfast" broadband that was then throttled to a speed of 256 Kbps.

The Australian Competition and Consumer Commission (ACCC) took action against Optus over its advertising of the plans in June.

In the Federal Court yesterday, the telco made some "undertakings" with respect to the editing of some of its advertisements in the "belief/hope/submission" that the new versions were now compliant with Australian laws.

Optus' barrister Norman O'Bryan SC presented one of the amended advertisements to the court. It "retained the word 'unlimited'" in a box-out but made it "very clear in that box that there was 50 GB of superfast broadband and then the broadband drops to a 256 Kbps rate", he said.

"That, Optus believes, is not an improper or unlawful use of the term 'unlimited'," O'Bryan SC said.

"Speeds of internet usage are, of course, always limited. The speeds of everything are limited, including the speed of light.

"No consumer with any knowledge of broadband would be misled that the use of [the word] 'unlimited' [in that context] was a reference to speed."

That was challenged by Justice Anthony North.

"If you didn't have the qualification there it would be misleading, wouldn't it?" he quizzed Optus.

"It would be to me because I'd expect getting broadband at a constant rate and very fast."

"Well, that's a possible interpretation Your Honour," O'Bryan responded.

Justice North continued: "Obviously I'm speaking as a member of the general public now. You don't expect the speed reduction to occur unless you're told."

O'Bryan said: "We'd submit it could not mislead anyone because no one understands 'unlimited' with reference to speed. The difficulty with that interpretation is that broadband speeds are not continuous."

Optus would seek a ruling on the lawfulness of the amended advertisement and interpretation of the word 'unlimited' when the case was heard in October.

"This case, when it resolves itself, will end up resolving itself around a formula of words which may or may not satisfy the ACCC in the final result," O'Bryan put to Justice North.

"Optus is very concerned to ensure it is not subjected to further proceedings after this case. It wants to be close to resolving the lawfulness of its advertising. [This will happen] if it has that context around the word 'unlimited'.

"Optus, of course, wants to continue advertising in a way which does not attract the ire of the ACCC and the court. It has amended its advertisements in ways it believes will fully comply with the law and should satisfy the ACCC.

"By the end of the case, Optus wants to know its advertising campaign is lawful and will not be subject to more litigation."

He said Optus would leave it to the court to rule on whether its newly-proposed advertisements were acceptable in the eyes of the law.

Timetable sorted

The parties used the directions hearing to agree to a timetable for the filing of further affidavits and expert evidence, and for the responses to those affidavits to be filed.

Two days were set aside for hearings in October, although it was expected that a determination on the contentious advertisement - dubbed by O'Bryan as "unlimited elephants" in reference to the animal theme used - would likely take only a day.

"We're really just down to that one ad," O'Bryan said. "The matter has narrowed considerably [since it was first filed]."

The new advertisements had not been published.

Justice North congratulated both parties for narrowing the complaint and bringing amendments to the table.

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Optus seeks court ruling on meaning of "unlimited" internet
"Paul K: In this context, unlimited means unlimited by human agency. So if an isp for example was to have a DSLAM Port user profiling tool where by default everyone was put on "safe" and that ..."
By andys@home
 
 
 
Comments: 11
metalphreak
Aug 17, 2010 8:07 AM
If it is not their intent to deceive people, why are they pushing so hard to be able to use the term "unlimited"? It has been determined in the past that it is a misleading term.

I'm sure the same competent customers who understand that the term "unlimited" does not refer to speed will also be able to understand what the product offers if it only says "50GB superfast then shaped to 256k". The term unlimited adds absolutely no additional info about the product.

Of course every ADSL connection is limited by the technology, and the conditions of the environment in which it operates (line quality, consumer's equipment etc). But when you artificially introduce a 256k limit after 50GB, the product is no longer 'unlimited'.

I think it's pretty clear that in terms of the consumer mind, 'unlimited' means 'no artificial limitations imposed by any human intervention'

Just give up Optus. It is simply one of those words that are no longer acceptable. Being the only company trying to sneak back in its use while other companies like AAPT use it correctly, makes you looks like fools.
Res
Aug 17, 2010 8:38 AM
Justice North has got it right.
Unlimited is unlimited data at your connections full speed.
Any shaping after X GB of data transfered, means it is NOT an unlimited service, nice try slOptus.
Digger11
Aug 17, 2010 9:04 AM
Good old Optus playing silly buggers again - they must have learnt from the Telstra an iiNet management book of dirty tricks.
Be deceptiove in everything you do, and then when you get caught and end up in court, just laugh, as you have already gained a huge marketing advantage whose benefit far outweighs any minor legal costs.

and btw, Optus is still advertising their Prepaid Mobile TURBO TEXT plan that includes UNLIMITED SMS's !!!! Only one problem here Optus, if you read the fine print, the max. number of SMS's is limited to 3,000 p.m. !!!!

c'MON Optus, can you argue your way out of this one UNLIMITED =< 3,000 !!!!!!

ACCC - you are truly hopeless.
Daveh
Aug 17, 2010 9:11 AM
+1 to ACCC call.

They need new powers to make then an effective consumer protection group.
frances
Aug 17, 2010 11:06 AM
What actually is it that's supposedly unlimited? Obviously it's not speed, so is it downloads? If so, unlimited applies to dial-up as well. There is no limit on what anyone can download, if they they have the patience. I'm confused.
utedog
Aug 17, 2010 11:47 AM
Trouble is the marketing term 'unlimited' has been used for years. Even with dial-up numerous ISP's touted Unlimited plans, but these were always subjected to an Acceptable Use Policy in the fine print. So it was unlimited unless they decided they wanted to put on a limit on you.
Mordd
Aug 17, 2010 5:40 PM
Quote "Be deceptiove in everything you do, and then when you get caught and end up in court, just laugh, as you have already gained a huge marketing advantage whose benefit far outweighs any minor legal costs."

Hmm, who does that remind me of.... oh wait i know! AFACT!!
Digger11
Aug 17, 2010 5:57 PM
@Utedog, yes it has been used - but also abused. The ACCC put all ISP's and Telco's on notice quite a few years ago about how the word unlimited can be used.
Optus jsut chose to ignore the ACCC's advice.
johnpro2
Aug 17, 2010 8:39 PM
Unlimited is use to deceive, trick or just good marketing ..depending who gives you the definition. The dictionary should be the arbitrator.

Virgin tried this trick some years back ..in tiny fonts it said fair usage rules apply..??
Jp
Paul K
Aug 18, 2010 7:34 AM
Optus should face large fines for their anti competitive behavior. People who might have chosen to go with another ISP, who advertised legitimatly, were mislead with lies.

Every other company stopped using the words unlimited incorrectly, earlier, except Optus.

In this context, unlimited means unlimited by human agency.
andys@home
Aug 18, 2010 11:57 AM
Paul K: In this context, unlimited means unlimited by human agency.

So if an isp for example was to have a DSLAM Port user profiling tool where by default everyone was put on "safe" and that translated to no more than ADSL1 download speeds for an ADSL2 capable DSLAM no matter how close to the exchange you were then would that be a failure of unlimited? Especially when "Normal" (12Mbps down) or "Thrillseeker" (up to 24Mbps down) were available if you knew enough to go find them and turn them on (In which case you smart enough to understand what unlimited really means in an ISP context?)

Life is rarely so black and white. Its my view that usage of "Safe" by default is in effect a worse business practise than forcing a 64 or 128 or even 256 throttleback on reaching quota, because it applies at all times and IM guessing that less thn 5percent of users will be aware that has been applied to them.

Andy
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