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Minister flays advertising giant for breaches of public trust.

Australia's Communications Minister Senator Stephen Conroy took his bitter spat with the world's biggest search and advertising company to a new level this week when he chronicled Google's approach to breaches of public trust.

Responding to a question from SA LIberal Senator Mary Jo Fisher, Conroy accused Google of deliberately sniffing private information from householders and businesses as it collected Street View data and of taking a cavalier approach to privacy around the world.

He mocked as "absurd" claims by the company's chief executive officer Eric Schmidt about its social media site Buzz that "people thought that somehow we were publishing their email addresses and private information, which was not true" when it was so.

To a long list of perceived breaches of confidence, WA Greens senator Scott Ludlam said Senator Conroy was "starting to sound really personal".

Google and the minister are locked in a battle over a proposed Federal Government internet filter that would censor content the Commonwealth and its offices deemed objectionable. Observers viewed the minister's speech as a shot at Google for defying the Government.

"They [Google] consider themselves to be above Government," Senator Conroy told the committee. "They consider that they are the appropriate people to make the decisions about people's privacy data."

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Earlier he said that Google was motivated by only profit and was keen to exercise its own censorship when it suited it.

"This is a company that says 'do no evil', but tries to pretend that it is not motivated by profit and that it knows best and 'you can trust us' when it comes to privacy," he said

"Unfortunately there are no safeguards. You are dealing with company policy. 

"When it comes to their attitude to their own censorship, their response is simply, 'Trust us.' They state on the website, 'Trust us'."

But when pressed by his SA sparring partner Senator Fisher about why - given the Minister's view that the company had acted illegitimately - that he wasn't referring the matter for investigation, Senator Conroy backed down.

The Minister denied Senator Fisher's accusation that he was "hiding behind [Privacy Commissioner] Karen Curtis".

"What I said was that Germany has described it as indictable," Senator Conroy said.

"I did not say that we had.

"Let me be very clear about this. I did not say we had."

A Google spokesman said yesterday the company was "surprised" by the minister's statements because they focused on Google and Facebook rather than the filter.

Flick to page two for the full Senate estimates committee transcript of the exchange with Senator Conroy.


Conroy attacks Google: full Senate transcript
""They [Google] consider themselves to be above Government" And Senator Conroy clearly believes he is above the will of the Australian people, and yet he has the nerve to suggest that Google is ..."
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Bazwalt
May 26, 2010 11:20 AM
"They [Google] consider themselves to be above Government," Senator Conroy told the committee. "They consider that they are the appropriate people to make the decisions about people's privacy data."

And who is the senator to disagree? Is he trying to insinuate that we should trust the government with our data?

The same government that is going to filter the content that we are entitled to see should we wish to do so?

Conroy is no better than Google - Both companies are infringing on our civil liberties and our freedom to information.

If the security breach is as big as it's played out to be - why has noone from the public stood up?

In all honesty, I think that Conroy see's Google as a threat to his "bigger plans" and is attempting to shroud Google and put them in their place.

Im not saying it's a good thing to let Google grow huge - but at the same time...I'm happy to see Conroy squirm.

He's nothing but nuisance and a barrier in our advancements in telecommunications and he is the wrong man for the job. He has no clue about technology. He can't even explain in further detail what Google is accused of...because he doesn't even know.
Sams
May 26, 2010 11:27 AM
Conroy: "They [Google] consider themselves to be above Government"

At least Google have an understanding of the subject matter, unlike Conroy who probably needs a PA just to send an email.
zag
May 26, 2010 4:16 PM
Maybe Google should do what it did in China.

Filter nothing and then say well if you kick us out will filter out everything that has any sort of Australian IP range.

Then say well you want to be filtered.
Ace
May 26, 2010 5:24 PM
Not that Conroy has paid any more than lip service to this complaint. Has he asked the police to investigate? No. I'm pretty sure the AFP are itching to investigate if someone would just lodge a complaint.
tallguy
May 26, 2010 6:45 PM
In Europe at the moment and heard about Sen. Conroy's statements on the radio here. The take on his comments from here was that things have gotten "personal" between him and Google and whilst the reporters were keen to give an unbiased report, they did suggest that Sen. Conroy's behaviour was unusual.

Great way to represent Australia to the world!
anonymous
May 26, 2010 7:19 PM

Many people are now suggesting that Conboy's behaviour is somewhat more than unusual.

This all sounds like it might be just a grubby little ploy so that he can say "Well, of course we must have a secret government filter to protect us from all this evil."
Rhino
May 27, 2010 2:41 PM
Yes what Google did was wrong, but make no mistake, the government collects data on every citizen through medicare, centrelink, tax etc. for profit or other purposes, and yet we don't give it a second thought. So who is the most evil of the two? A company doing it for profit, or a government doing it for control over it citizens?

People need to take responsibility for their own wireless networks. I'm shocked at how many unsecured wireless networks are around my estate. Hell I even went to my next door neighbour and told him his network was not protected and fixed it for him.

This is becoming a real issue for Stephen, and I am curious to see what happens considering the Rudd government spends somewhere in the region of $5M (approx $185k) by Conroy's department alone) in taxpayers money to Google's AdWords in advertising.
ejobrien
May 28, 2010 7:52 PM
"They [Google] consider themselves to be above Government"

And Senator Conroy clearly believes he is above the will of the Australian people, and yet he has the nerve to suggest that Google is being cavalier.

Google is motivated by profit... Obviously, it's a public corporation. It has a responsibility to look after the interests of it's shareholders.

Senator Conroy has a responsibility to look after the interests of the Australian people, but he is clearly motivated by his own misguided religious ideology.
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