Revealed: Copyright ‘101' challenge to iiNet victory

 

Dissecting the film industry's appeal.

The film industry will challenge close to the entirety of Justice Cowdroy's judgement on its case against ISP iiNet, according to appeal documents lodged with the Federal Court.

But central to the appeal is an argument that the judge applied an incorrect test for whether iiNet "authorised" the copyright infringement of subscribers on its network.

AFACT will effectively argue that the judge failed to weigh statutory provisions in the Copyright Act against considerations of case law when determining an outcome on the issue of authorisation.

In the case, Cowdroy ruled that it was BitTorrent - not the provision of the internet - that was the means of infringement. But this ruling was made on the basis of case law in the first instance.

In four of the fifteen grounds for appeal, AFACT has argued that Cowdroy was obliged to consider provision 101 (1A) of the Copyright Act in determining authorisation, in addition to appropriate case law.

Legal experts previously told iTnews that Cowdroy approach was to look at the case law position and come to a view on authorisation before considering these provisions.

"The Court would find that the respondent did not authorise for the reasons discussed above [ie case law] regardless of its consideration of s 101(1A) of the Copyright Act," Cowdroy's judgement reads.

"Nevertheless, as s 101(1A) is phrased as considerations that ‘must' be considered, the Court is compelled to go into further consideration of the issue of authorisation pursuant to the considerations in s 101(1A)(a)-(c) of the Copyright Act."

Provision 101 (1A) says that in determining authorisation, a Judge must "take into account" three provisions - the extent of the person's power to prevent the doing of the infringement, the nature of the relationship between the infringer and (in this case) iiNet, and whether (iiNet) took any other reasonable steps to prevent or avoid the doing of the act, including whether the person complied with any relevant industry codes of practice.

Among other points to be raised on appeal:

  • AFACT would seek to overturn the ruling that iiNet had a repeat infringer policy that allowed it to claim safe harbour under the Copyright Act.
  • The federation would challenge Justice Cowdroy over his reasons for rejecting evidence.
  • It would raise further questions over what could be inferred from iiNet's choice of witnesses. The film industry had questioned in the trial why staff with more intimate technical knowledge of the iiNet network were not called on to give evidence.
  • AFACT plans to again question the number of infringements, which was a contentious issue in the case.

Revealed: Copyright ‘101' challenge to iiNet victory
"@Ace Conroy has an agenda, it's sad but true."
By Johnny
 
 
 
Comments: 22
peterniss
Feb 25, 2010 9:51 PM
Dear AFACT, stop wasting our time and the time and money of iinet. Nobody likes you. You lost and you are mearly beating a dead horse. Why not focus your efforts on setting up a facility to allow people to legitimately download content? Something possitive maybe?
Johnny
Feb 25, 2010 10:31 PM
AFACT,

your tactics do not work and you don't realise that.

I wont ever buy a movie ever again, and the only reason for that is they cost too much and too much of that money goes into AFACT's pockets.

You have threatened the internet by trying to sue an innocent service provider.

instead of embracing the internet, you are trying to destroy it, i am offended by AFACT's actions.

I hope the federal court says NO for the second time and you [edited] pay the full costs to IINET and hopefully they'll make you pay damages for attempting to ruin IINET's corporate image.

[edit for abusive language]

Edited by BrettWinterford: 26/2/2010 09:29:06 AM
Lets Rally Up
Feb 26, 2010 12:16 AM
READ AND DISTRUBUTE..
Using BitTorrent Clients is not illegal what some users choose to download with it is, iiNet have not done anything wrong here.. BitTorrent is a legitimate source to get many things eg: Linux Releases.

AFACT: Listen UP AFACT and whom you are representing.. AUSTRALIAN PEOPLE NEED TO BOYCOTT THESE BULLIES we need stop buying their material and stop watching Channel 7.. The main reason people are copying this material is because they are not allowing you to obtain them at a fair price when they are released legitimately.
KB
Feb 26, 2010 7:54 AM
Can any one give me an answer to this question? From what I have read, AFACT joined iiNet with either one or two user accounts and then proceeded to seed a movie to acquire IP address from the iiNet range to be used as a part of these proceedings. To me, this seems as illegal as a phone tap without authorisation and they (AFACT) should or could be charged with some thing for this.

Like I said, I do not know, that is why I am asking.
hellfire
Feb 26, 2010 8:14 AM
Just another waste of court time with this appeal and further court costs that in the end AFACT will have to pay. ONLY Lawyers will benefit from this. Copyright holders are responsible to protect their own copyright and no third party such as an ISP should have to police it for them. If AFACT will not persue those who distribute their clients product directly or those that download it, then it is their own fault. Legal action against iiNet is like suing the Transport authority because while driving on their road you have a car accident.
SteveThePirate
Feb 26, 2010 8:41 AM
In authorising an investigator to obtain a file from Bittorrent, have AFACT authorised the leechers in the swarm?
The investigator must have been downloading and uploading (with authorisation) each file (that's part of the deal with Bittorrent) therefore segments of the file downloaded by the leechers in the swarm are from an authorised source...
How much of a file must have come from an authorised source before the whole file is authorised?
And conversely, how much of an infringement is made when sharing only a small segment of a file?
A few cats and pigeons for the debate...
TruthSphere
Feb 26, 2010 9:43 AM
It's AFACT, adapt or die.
funkyg
Feb 26, 2010 10:03 AM
Reading this article I wonder why they are going after iiNet in particular. Shouldn't they also be looking at Microsoft as they supply the operating system much of the software us run on, Telstra as they supply the cable and much of the backbone, the film producer as without the film you wouldn't be able to get a copy.... The list goes on and just prooves what a farce this is.

I agree with the other comments and iiNets thoughts. If you price films realistically people will buy them rather than going through the hassles of torrents. I also agree that torrents are used for lots of legit purposes, so you shouldn't unfairly penalize them.
Jahm Mitt
Feb 26, 2010 11:37 AM
Not only are the "bad guys" [edited for abusive language] - aka Corporate Moron America from the US and A;

- They are greedy stupid [edited for abusive language]...


e.g. Microsoft sold Win 7. Online and in box (pretend figure) it went for say $200.

They sold it in Australia for $400 - and they stopped people in Australia from buying from the US and A; by ----- get this:

1. Blocking their IP address; and

2. If they did things like use a proxy server, they blocked the sale via shipping address.

With the DRM and the Microsoft dirty antics and the rigging of the hardware etc., etc., etc....

Well I bought a laptop a few years back - fine; plays DVD's too.

But here is where I did all my research on this:

These pricks in AFACT and Co., use staged releases; First at the movies in the US and A, and then selectively into SOME of the other regions.

OK that means globally about 85% of what is released - is not released in Australia and does not make it to Australia.

After the cinemas, then come the DVD rentals, and then wayyyy down the track it comes on TV.

AFACT rigs the prices of DVD's and CD's etc., so that consumers in Australia pay substantially more for their media, that people do in the USA etc.,

AFACT and Co opposed the use of Parallel importing, where consumers could buy their own material overseas, at a substantial saving to buying the same media in the shops here.

Then we have the region encoding.

These [edited for abusive language] have it stitched up to only release the proprietary firmware that reads the disk content, to the manufactures who make things like DVD players etc...

I mean THIS by and of it's self is a HUGE long running sore to the consumer - remember Sony installing root kits on ones hard drive? etc., etc., etc...

So with the region encoding, these pricks make it so that one I install a region encoded disk, the unit "locks" to that region. When I insert a disk from the US and A, it registers that the disk is from a different region. As soon as I say stick in another Aussi disk, that registers as the THIRD change, and then when I insert a disk from the UK, the drive region LOCKS it's self to only playing disks from the UK.

No more Aussi disks, no more USA disks etc.....

So that is only ONE small example of how these pricks meddle with everything.

The issue goes on that in Australia we only get about 15% of the global media content. What is not is neither released here nor distributed here.

As far as how these organisations control what is shown here.....

Australian media such as the TV stations and the radio stations and the press, are some of the shittiest in the world. And they are controlled for the most part by the members of AFACT.

We suffer enormous advertisment loading - and after 11 pm - we have the equivalent of porn spam adds, in 5 minute blocks, for five minutes, every five minutes half the night...

I mean I love women!!!! but these adds are too much - because it's the same ads over and over and over - night after night after night... and they have long since ceased to be tittilating and are now purely annoying.

We get "fans of assorted series" and the series have random and unannounced schedule changes, we get stuff that is mostly 2 or so years after the current stuff is screening in the USA, and frequently the series are taken off air mid season and replaced with other programs or old episodes etc....

Most of the Free to Air TV in Australia is basically shit.

And I do digress about the issue of free to air. Assume that one watches 20 hours per week - that is about 10 hours of "show" and 10 hours of adds - if I was earning a wage for those 10 hours of adds, vs. watching adds on TV., then I would be way in front.

TV and the adds, actually cost me enormous amounts of loss through the unproductive and wasteful use of my time.

Could I go hire a movie if I was inclined.... yeah - with the "new releases" still being classified as "new releases" 2 years after it was seen at the cinema at $5 a night, vs the not new releases that are of movies like "The Terminator" that came out 20 years ago for $2 weekly.


As far as music goes - I am not into the latest flavour of the month, being shoved down my neck., and I also kind of like much of all that has been produced - spanning the last 100 years or so.

Even if we limit the material to say the last 30 years - almost NONE of it is available in the record shops, very little of it is available online - but people do share it via P2P...

Again being musically inclined - when buying "proper" sheet music - most of it is very poorly written - probably by dope smoking jerks on minimum wages., and for the larger part no one from their managers to the musicians ever checks the quality or the accuracy of the work.

So we get wrong wording, bar chords to fill in for 2 guitars playing complex note sequences and riffs... and the copyright nazis went after sites who hosted people's interpretations of the music, in tab notation... with them listening to the recording and writing down in "guitar code" (tabs) how they thought the actual riff went, where guitar 1 and guitar 2 cut in and out, and each guitars chord and fingering sequence and techniques.

I thought that was getting to the point of beating up people and arresting them for whistling tunes when walking the dog.

Again AFACT and it's greedy, lazy and stupid "corporate moron" constituents, do everything they can to obstruct, control and gouge the consumer with every device and means possible., but they deliberately do nothing to make the content affordable or available.

Do I like them or respect them? No.

Will I ever buy from them again or support them?

Not when they are rigging their own copyright laws to suit themselves - so they can keep on plastering licensed versions of Mickey Mouse on every school bag, lunch box and pencil case for the next 500 years...

These companies are rotten and corrupt.

And now they have consolidated themselves into about 4 or 5 global multinationals who own and control the movie and music studios, the TV stations and the print media.

In Australia - the news is almost identical on all networks.... and it's stupid corporate moron based news.... except for the haircuts of the news readers., it would be hard to tell them apart.

Things of relevance like this; such as the oil states in the middle east are investing heavily in solar and renewables.... well that has never been reported by the stupids in Australia - what makes our news is pointless and irrelevant shit like, "A man caught [edited for abusive language] his dog was sentenced today" or some other bullshit - while real matters of great import go ignored and disregarded.

Or the idiot political sensationalising and point scoring etc...

The media in Australia is run by idiots.

AFACT are the front face of the global conglomerates, trying to lock everyone via vertical integration - into their product lines.

They want power and control over everyone using everything.

And they don't like it when people say "I am not a commodity on a balance sheet - designed to sit here and make revenue for you".

The more I see just how corrupt these buiness's are - are what cheek they have to try it on, the more I am inclined to have subversive inclinations.....

Like "Turn off, Don't Watch and Don't Buy" and support free press and unsigned artists and the local productions by real people - in community cinemas and halls.....

Learn to read, write and play your own music..

And dump the spoon fed nazi [edited for abusive languafe] from AFACT and it's constituent members.


Edited by BrettWinterford: 26/2/2010 12:08:57 PM
meski
Feb 26, 2010 12:06 PM
I would have hoped they might have learned from the music industry, after all, they are almost the same companies.

Provision 101 (1A) says that in determining authorisation, a Judge must "take into account" three provisions - the extent of the person's power to prevent the doing of the infringement, the nature of the relationship between the infringer and (in this case) iiNet, and whether (iiNet) took any other reasonable steps to prevent or avoid the doing of the act, including whether the person complied with any relevant industry codes of practice.

Cowdroy already pointed out that:
- reasonable steps do not include suspending or cancelling internet accounts.
- automated letters from AFACT do not have power to make ISPs do anything
- what industry code of practice?
Ace
Feb 26, 2010 12:55 PM
I saw some comment where someone said 'BitTorrent should be blocked as it's basically only used for illegal downloads'. Has anyone checked their Windows Service list, which contains:
Service Name: BITS
Display Name: Background Intelligent Transfer Service
Description: Transfers files in the background using idle network bandwidth. If the service is stopped, features such as Windows Update, and MSN Explorer will be unable to automatically download programs and other information. If this service is disabled, any services that explicitly depend on it may fail to transfer files if they do not have a fail safe mechanism to transfer files directly through IE in case BITS has been disabled.

This would seem to suggest blocking updates to Microsoft Windows (some tens of millions of computers) would be preferable to having a few movies illegally transferred. Presumably, scp and https would also have to be blocked by ISPs to ensure movies could not be secretly copied across ISP networks.
anonymous
Feb 26, 2010 6:40 PM

Maybe this is another case of millionaire lawyers arranging things so they can become billionaire lawyers.

More seriously, there may be a question about the real purpose of this type of deliberately protracted litigation. At the end of the day, the primary issue may not be whether costs are awarded against the content multinationals.

A court award of costs never covers all the legal expenses that have been incurred, and they cover none of the loss of management input to a business that is the inevitable result of a deliberately long drawn out series of court cases.

So it would be interesting to know if AFART figure they will win against iiNet even if they comprehensively lose sucessive judgements?

zag
Feb 27, 2010 1:26 AM
AFACT will keep suing because it chews up cash the 34 companies will have more money than what iinet have, thus can go for years and years without worrying about the cash they are losing out on.

Their other problem is they are trying to side step the law so that a company with no copyright on the files will disconnect people based upon an IP address.

which as the judge pointed out to AFACT doesn't actually mean anyone has done anything because it doesn't point to anyone directly, and when in court the iinet experts had said that AFACT would have been packet sniffing or sitting in on the bit-torrent stream to get the IP address in the first place.

Which also break Australian privacy laws thus AFACT are already breaking the law to gain evidence which you can't use in a court as it's all tainted, which simply means all the AFACT emails are all pointless.
KJ
Feb 28, 2010 2:24 AM
Has anyone else noticed that since the case was lost the pro AFACT astro turfers have not posted their trolls ?

Second rather ironic that EMI have been bitten by the copyright laws with regard to Men at Work and the Kookaburra song. The only solution I can think is for ordinary folks to buy up rights to very old material and sue big media for infringements UNTIL the get the message. One which they already know as they milk the hell out of it, but that copyright on anything after 20 years is crazy. Perhaps we can then have some sanity on this issue.
Digger11
Mar 1, 2010 7:52 AM
Has anyone else noticed that since the case was sent to Appeal the pro-child porn astro turfers are still posting their trolls ?

Johnny
Mar 1, 2010 10:18 AM
AFACT i hope your listening.

I pledge never to purchase a movie in australia, ever again.

I will download for free any movies that i wish.

I hope you f**kers go bankrupt.

The only reason for this is AFACT, no other reason to note.

The only cost to me to do this is my unlimited internet plan and buying more 1 terabyte hard drives.
Ace
Mar 1, 2010 2:34 PM
I just read this in The Australian. A quote from Facebook policy director, Debbie Frost regarding the defacing of a tribute Facebook page, and who was responsible...

"If I phone you up and say really offensive things, does that mean the mobile phone operator is liable for that?"

In Australia under a Conroy inspired regime? Yes.
Graeme Harrison (prof at-symbol post.harvard.edu)
Mar 1, 2010 6:26 PM
I noted at the time of the judgement that AFACT were never going to win, as that would make ladder manufacturers responsible for spinal injuries, car manufacturers responsible for half the hospital costs etc. In each case it was reasonably foreseeable that some fraction of users would misuse. Indeed, Telstra is clearly responsible for almost ALL illegal copying, by providing the telephone lines over which such activities occur. I think iiNet needs to join Telstra to the defence.

But I think the AFACT shareholders' use of Region Encoding, without proper disclosure of such restrictions means that some percentage of users who buy valid DVDs etc in Australia cannot play them on the notebooks they bought overseas, or where an Australian-purchased PC happened to be playing a US-purchased disk on its fifth (or thereabouts) use, and thereby became locked to a different region. Hence there was a valid reason at least some of these users may have needed to validly download a copy of a movie - having purchased a valid licence, but having received unsuitable media to play it. How could iiNet know which users were simply frustrated by such knobbling as was introduced by AFACT members to frustrate the playing of a movie from its original media.

Besides, AFACT had lots of avenues available to it. As I posted previously, AFACT should have sought only that iiNet provide details to the Police, for Police to make further enquiries as the Police thought fit. That would have had greater success, than seeking to have 'alleged infringers' cut-off only on the basis AFACT's say-so, with no details as to how AFACT came to such purported facts.
CodeSeeker
Mar 1, 2010 9:55 PM
I know who AFACT should do next. They should sue aliens like ET next..

Since they have the power to prevent internet piracy and since they are doing nothing about it they must be authorizing it.

All the aliens need to do is anal probe pirates and make them forget how to use bittorent and problem solved..

AFACT better talk to their laywers now its a chance not to be missed.

They can always take on Microsoft next as well since most pirates use windows. Clearly if they microsoft took action and prevented people who pirate from using a computer then they would stop pirates in the track since they are doing nothing about it then they must be authorizing it.
CodeSeeker
Mar 1, 2010 9:58 PM
To annswer your questing KB it become a criminal offensive if you make money from piracy.. such as seeding servers with copyright material to get IP addresses.

Thats like starting a riot and seeing who will join in and arresting them.. Silly AFACT
Johnny
Mar 1, 2010 10:41 PM
@Graeme Harrison
There is free software available to change the region coding on your computer an unlimited number of times. This is not illegal unless its legal for AFACT to have control over every aspect of our life.

AFACT clearly do not believe in the judicial process and are unable to prove any of the alleged copyright infringements actually happened becuase they're not the judge jury and executioneer, it's upto a court of law to decide whether somebody is guilty.
Johnny
Mar 1, 2010 10:42 PM
@Ace
Conroy has an agenda, it's sad but true.
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