Exetel drops infringement policy after iiNet win

 

No more blocked pages for customers accused of piracy.

ISP Exetel had modified its policy for privacy infringement processes in the wake of Justice Cowdroy's landmark ruling in favour of iiNet last Thursday in the Federal Court.

The Federal Court had ruled that iiNet did not authorise copyright infringement on its network, despite users on its network being found to have downloaded pirated material.

From the end of February, Exetel has notified its customers in an email that they will no longer have their Internet access temporarily blocked by Exetel if accused of copyright infringement.

Nor will customers be directed to a ‘block page' on which they have to acknowledge receipt of copyright infringement notices. Customers had  previously been asked to state that they had either complied with the notice, or denied the allegation, on Exetel's block page.

But Exetel will continue to send out infringement notices to its customers on behalf of film industry investigators. The company said in the email that it believes this "in the best interest of the person who pays for the Internet services to know what other entities believe the service is being used for."

The CEO of Exetel, John Linton, said on his blog that he believed Cowdroy's ruling indicated that there is no current law requiring ISPs to assist in reducing copyright theft.

Linton likens this to not requiring a person who rents out guns to exercise any duty of care as to whom they're rented out to. He also believes that the Internet is used "massively to infringe copyright".

Claiming that forwarding copyright infringement notices is a "trivial exercise with minute costs", Linton also speculated whether iiNet's evidence to the contrary - given under oath in the witness stand at court - "constitutes perjury".

The final Exetel copyright infringement notice is subject to legal advice and "testing" but a draft of it was posted on the Australian Network Operators' Group mailing list, as per below.

Dear [ ],

A copyright infringement notice has been sent to Exetel that states that your Exetel IP (internet connection) has been used to acquire material the breaches copyright.

You do not need to take any action except to be aware that, if you or some member of your household are in fact using your internet connection to infringe another party's copyright, they have been able to detect that action and could, at some time in the future should they wish to do so, involve themselves in the legal and other costs of taking some action against you.

Again, you are not required to take any action regarding this infringement notice and it is sent to you as a courtesy in case usage of the internet connection in your name is being used in ways unknown to you.

Exetel Provisioning


Exetel drops infringement policy after iiNet win
"Digger11: "Sams going to their forums and discusses the changes with their company directors, is surely in the minority and this will not benefit the vast majority of customers. " I assume you ..."
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Comments: 25
Digger11
Feb 9, 2010 9:54 AM
Great News - I am sure we wll be out celebrating !!!


BTW, can someone refer to me to good websites where I can steal some latest release movies and songs ???

thanks in advance.
techydude
Feb 9, 2010 10:20 AM
Linton is such a poostirrer & shill for Hollywood, and this latest backflip merely proves it. 5 minutes reading his blog last year and i nearly vomited. He was probably his grade 12 prefect.
Sams
Feb 9, 2010 10:22 AM
I'm certainly celebrating that some clueless dufus can't interrupt our Internet services based merely on an accusation.

"BTW, can someone refer to me to good websites where I can steal some latest release movies and songs ???"

How are you going to steal them? You can only copy them.
firey1
Feb 9, 2010 11:36 AM
And JL does an amazing backflip once again, I'm strating to love this clown.

Digger you must be really burning now? Hehehe.....
Scengy
Feb 9, 2010 1:31 PM
Way to stand your ground Linton.
btone
Feb 9, 2010 1:32 PM
Can't help you with downloading websites you incorrectly allude to D11 but here is one you should enjoy:

http://playnow.gamezone.com/game/troll.htm
Rhino
Feb 9, 2010 2:23 PM
What's the matter Digger. No emotionally fueled statements how AFACT were robbed? My how quickly you have turned.
moses
Feb 9, 2010 3:40 PM
I'm glad they haven't finished testing the new notice, perhaps they'll come up with a draft that makes grammatical sense.

"has been used to acquire material the breaches copyright."
Thysce
Feb 9, 2010 3:47 PM
Has anyone noticed that this is the first time Digger11 has popped out since the announcement that the verdict on iiNet was to be sooner? He hasn't posted in any other articles that entail iiNet's victory etc.
Private Citizen
Feb 9, 2010 4:20 PM
Welcome back Digger11, We were suspicious that you were in lockup with the AFACT legal team trying to find something to appeal for. His honour has given 200 pages of judgement to trawl through. Choice of font maybe?
As a member of the "anti-filter lobby" (and potential "wierdo" - just not the specific weirdo you mentioned) I look forward to flamin your butt back to the stoneage or back to the Conroy era internet (same thing really).
Res
Feb 9, 2010 4:45 PM
Techydude, I agree, it doesn't take a scientist to figure out JL's blog is nothing more than pure PR stunt.

I have only read it a couple times over the years, but usually avoid it unless someone directs my attention to it for a great laugh, and I had one recent occasion last year to do so...

He is open about things he wants to be open about, but certainly not many, such as a post made relating his comments about iinet profiteering from it, I posted about exetel deliberately and directly profiting off it by purchasing and upgrading hardware for the specific purpose of caching P2P traffic, funny how my blog comment never made the light of day.

But I applaud Exetel for this decision, especially since Justice Cowdroy more or less said there was no legal right to suspend or terminate a user for it.

There exists laws for years to deal with copyright violators, and if AFACT went after a bunch of users,like the 40 or so proven in the case, they WOULD have won those cases and sent a clear message to the violators, but they wrongly targeted an ISP and rightfully lost.
marklara
Feb 10, 2010 9:56 AM
Digger and JL - the two biggest back-flippers in history.
(Or are they they same person ?)

Now back with tail firmly between legs after being proven wrong. Suck it down!!

Digger11
Feb 10, 2010 6:47 PM
Hi old friends.

Here is my learned and detailed response to the iiNet case-

"APPEAL"
marklara
Feb 10, 2010 10:13 PM
About as learned* as all your other comments...



* sh1t.
Digger11
Feb 11, 2010 3:38 PM
I think my origianl post may have been a bit too subtle for a lot of you.

It is called Sarcasm.

anonymous
Feb 11, 2010 4:34 PM

OMG, who would have thought it from a nice person like that.

DJ
Feb 15, 2010 9:51 PM
Yeah, yeah, whatever John Linton.

Exetel is always changing their terms and policies, usually via a email sent at 2am from an address you cannot respond to.

Seems there are a few customer service lessons to be learnt there too.
Sams
Feb 16, 2010 9:42 AM
DJ: "Exetel is always changing their terms and policies, usually via a email sent at 2am from an address you cannot respond to."

... and then us Exetel customers go into the forums on their customers' website and discuss it with their admins and company directors. Quite often they will float ideas and policy changes there first. It's pretty good actually, although one of the directors there a clearly a passive-aggressive - he often also replies that if you don't like it, go elsewhere, which is fairly poor customer relations.
Digger11
Feb 16, 2010 10:01 AM
@Sams - you can really be bothered discussing changes to Internet t's and c's on a forum ????
I myself actually have better things to do.
Mordd
Feb 22, 2010 11:39 PM
Yes, your trolling on ITNEWS is such a better use of your time Digger11. "I have better things to do.." LMAO, hurting a bit there I sense Digger11, your posts before the verdict contained such spirit and passion, pity to see you denegrating to primary school playground insults now.
Digger11
Feb 23, 2010 8:51 AM
Hi Mordd, please stop trolling on IT News. Your strange opinions cannot be real - so you are clearly trolling.

Please desist from posting your troll (kindegarten level)comments.
rycrozier
Feb 23, 2010 9:48 AM
Play nicely or it's the naughty corner... don't make me do it.
Sams
Feb 23, 2010 10:13 AM
Digger11: "I myself actually have better things to do"

Evidence points to the contrary.
Digger11
Feb 23, 2010 11:42 AM
Ry has got a good point - and I was probably a bit harsh originally.

What I meant to get across was that your average customer will struggle to be able to argue changes to their ISP's T's and C's. Sams going to their forums and discusses the changes with their company directors, is surely in the minority and this will not benefit the vast majority of customers.
Sams
Feb 23, 2010 6:20 PM
Digger11: "Sams going to their forums and discusses the changes with their company directors, is surely in the minority and this will not benefit the vast majority of customers. "

I assume you have been an Exetel customer then, or are you just talking out of your ... er, making it up as you go along.
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