UN mulls internet regulation options

By John Hilvert on Dec 17, 2010 9:51 AM
Filed under Security

WikiLeaks sparks push for tighter controls.

The United Nations is considering whether to set up an inter-governmental working group to harmonise global efforts by policy makers to regulate the internet.

Establishment of such a group has the backing of several countries, spearheaded by Brazil.

At a meeting in New York on Wednesday, representatives from Brazil called for an international body made up of Government representatives that would attempt to create global standards for policing the internet - specifically in reaction to challenges such as WikiLeaks.

The Brazilian delegate stressed, however, that this should not be seen as a call for a "takeover" of the internet.

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India, South Africa, China and Saudi Arabia appeared to favour a new possible over-arching inter-government body.

However, Australia, US, UK, Belgium and Canada and attending business and community representatives argued there were risks in forming yet another working group that might isolate itself from the industry, community users and the general public.

"My concern is that if we were to make a move to form a governmental-only body then that would send a very strong signal to civil society that their valuable contribution was not required or was not being looked for," an un-named Australian representative told the meeting.

Debate on the creation of a new inter-governmental body stemmed from a UN Economic and Social Council resolution 2010/2 of 19 July.

The resolution invited the UN Secretary-General "to convene open and inclusive consultations involving all Member States and all other stakeholders with a view to assisting the process towards enhanced cooperation in order to enable Governments on an equal footing to carry out their roles and responsibilities in respect of international public policy issues pertaining to the Internet but not of the day-to-day technical and operational matters that do not impact upon those issues."

Much debate concerned the meaning of "enhanced cooperation" and whether a new inter-governmental body was required. Participants also debated the roles of existing organisations - such as the Internet Governance Forum, ICANN and the ITU.

The IGF - an organisation that informs the UN but makes no decisions - is running close to the end of a five-year mandate, due to expire at the end of the year.

The likes of ISOC, ICANN and more recently the World Information Technology and Services Alliance (WITSA) have recently expressed concerns [PDF] that a working panel to decide on the future of the IGF has been limited to representatives from member-states.

"Australia is a very strong supporter of the Internet Governance Forum," the unidentified Australian UN representative said at the New York meeting this week. "That is very much due to the multi-stake-holder approach of the IGF. It is an inclusive process."

Australia's Department of Broadband, Communications and the Digital Economy said that Australian Government welcomed the resolution of the Second Committee of the United Nation General Assembly (UNGA) to extend the Internet Governance Forum (IGF) for a further five years.

The DBCDE said it would like to see the organisation retain an open and participatory membership.

"Australia has always supported the participation of civil society and the private sector in the IGF and regards their participation as being integral to the IGF's success," a spokesman told iTnews.

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Comments: 134

RolloTomasi Dec 18, 2010 1:42 AM	No Internet regulation by government, state, country, or world, ever.
Rogue_Amerikan Dec 18, 2010 1:44 AM	If the UN or ANY governmental body begins to regulate the Internet, I will no longer use it. I will continue to speak freely, but will do so underground. I will never submit to these fascist pigs. Game on, losers.
jpj Dec 18, 2010 1:46 AM	who actually needs the un
knorah Dec 18, 2010 1:49 AM	"to convene open and inclusive consultations involving all Member States and all other stakeholders with a view to assisting the process towards enhanced cooperation in order to enable Governments on an equal footing to carry out their roles and responsibilities in respect of international public policy issues pertaining to the Internet but not of the day-to-day technical and operational matters that do not impact upon those issues." Government-Speak for "We are wasting millions of taxpayer dollars to produce gobbledygook statements that can easily be interpreted to support tyranny in pursuit of the New World Order.
eric61 Dec 18, 2010 1:50 AM	So now we have a bunch of 2 bit dictatorships telling the civilized world how to act... well at least they're not still cannibals... but many still buy and sell slaves. And these people are allowed to tell us how to act? The Fidel Castros, the Hugo Chavezes, the Maoists, Stalinists, the Nazis? I don't think so.
mikeinsa Dec 18, 2010 1:51 AM	Oh yeah, like they could do this better than anything else they've done. The hackers must be thinking about killing themselves, now. The UN could bollocks up a shoe lace convention.
Moran Dec 18, 2010 1:53 AM	Oh screw this...when they tell you "that this should not be seen as a call for an takeover of the internet", you KNOW that it IS...what has the UN done other than enslave humanity? Pretty much the entire globe is being infiltrated by communist bastards, not just the USA. We grow less free everyday. Of course its all for 'security'. Screw that. Keep your security away from me and I'll take my chances with LIBERTY. What's next UN, you want put a chip in my ass?!?! Good luck!
smreiter Dec 18, 2010 1:57 AM	I don't necessarily like what the little tweep did. But the internet is the one place for free speech left. So get your greedy tyranical paws off of it. The next thing will be taxes, just one more form of control by people who can't make a living, start a business, or compete, so they choose the one best thing left: acting like a nanny. Same bastards who are getting rid of dodgeball. Should have learned to compete in dodgeball in grade school instead of cowering in the corner.
JungleCogs Dec 18, 2010 1:58 AM	No, it's the last place of pure freedom left. Dump the UN instead; it doesn't do anything of value.
jimmytwoshoes Dec 18, 2010 1:58 AM	I believe a move like this, depending on what the UN does, could send many Americans to join the John Birch Society. The John Birch Society has worked for decades to get the U.S. out of the UN. I guess I would have to agree with Moran's comment.
mythenjoseph Dec 18, 2010 2:00 AM	This is absurd.The UN is irrelevant in my eye's and I wish some other country would take the responsibility of housing and putting up with there delegates.I have no faith in any of their actions no matter how aimeiable.It is wrought with corruption and a money pit.I am in favor of each countries soveriegn identity and independence not a consensus derived by money..Europe has forfeited their identity and money ....it will lead to more strife and trouble because of the shared currency.The UN is a liberal idea en route to a one world government and they do not fly my flag or the great flag of Australia.They can take this resolution /suggestion and place it where the sun does not shine.I let anything put out to the public by this sham outfit to fall upon my deaf ears. Thank you
jerico Dec 18, 2010 2:03 AM	The "UN" should be dismantled..they aren't worth the paper it's written on!! The US should STOP funding this useless so called organization. They are corrupt and do NOTHING when a crisis breaks out except send a bunch of useless "blue helmeted" twerps that don't have orders to intervene.....just be a show to say "o.k. now let's stop this fighting and talk about it". They will be shutdown completely with no voice at all. A pathetic bunch of moron countrys that want to take control. LOL...the article says "just to regulate - not take over". They couldn't find or talk their way out of a wet paper bag. Just looks at the large number of sanctions against Iran and they don't enforce anyone them. Wimps in disguise!!!
2bitgeek Dec 18, 2010 2:04 AM	Go back to sleep sheeple. TMZ and thesmokinggun are still online. That is the only news you need and deserve!
Digital Texan Dec 18, 2010 2:13 AM	Cockroaches hate daylight. Internet is sure providing a lot of daylight.
Jimmy Mac67 Dec 18, 2010 2:22 AM	These third world jerks can make as many laws, regulations as they want. If idiots want to abide by them, so be it. Their BS isn't enforceable in the U.S. and cannot supercede the Constitution.
sesails Dec 18, 2010 2:23 AM	Drop the UN. They're a worthless group of vultures sucking up dollars for their own personal benefit. WORTHLESS!!!!!!!!
bardwick Dec 18, 2010 2:23 AM	Waste of time. Can't be done. The internet is not just a collection of web sites. There are dozens of protocols, methods and proccess for distributing information. People "in the business" struggle to keep up the the changing technologies EVERY DAY. This would be a rediculous waste of time/resources.
Uncle Buckeye Dec 18, 2010 2:25 AM	NO organization, PARTICULARLY THE UN, should have the ability to filter access to information. Conceptually the UN was a worthwhile attempt to promote worldwide conversation and resolution of both disagreement and conflict - it has FAILED dismally. To allow the systemically corrupt UN control of anything would be detrimental to every freedom loving country in the world. Not just no but HELL NO to UN internet regulation!
7kimba8 Dec 18, 2010 2:26 AM	"India, South Africa, China and Saudi Arabia appeared to favour a new possible over-arching inter-government body." Really???? These are the countries that will decide the freedoms of other countries??? Since when did the WHO and UN or anyone else for that matter, start listening to these countries about how to behave? Some of the most deplorable human rights records on earth can be found within the borders of these countries, but all of a sudden they stand to dictate what the rest of the world should be ALLOWED to view or read??? What? No opinon saught from North Korea?? Right. Pure BS! True about the cockroaches hating daylight.
NumbNuts2009 Dec 18, 2010 2:28 AM	One more reason to disband the UN. As bad as a national government is, a world government is an abomination.
Sleepangel Dec 18, 2010 2:32 AM	Who does the UN think they are? They are NOT the Defacto world government NOR did we accept Their supposed authority. The Governing body's who bend a knee to this criminal gang of stuff shirt bureaucrats are committing TREASON. The penalty's stand as stated. There Will NOT Be A One World Government. PERIOD.
sigvultus Dec 18, 2010 2:34 AM	I'm laughing my ass off because the UN won't succeed in anything but creating more hackers and more chaos. The Internet as we know it will die, only to rise again unregulated as before on a different network.
dgj_ga Dec 18, 2010 2:35 AM	India, South Africa, China and Saudi Arabia appeared to favour... That should tell you what it's all about. CONTROL! Who the hell do these people think they are?
Do what? Dec 18, 2010 2:37 AM	Internet Mulls UN Regulation....
Jerry In Tampa Dec 18, 2010 2:47 AM	The United Nations is a joke, Its only two functions are first, to provide a forum for Third World Nations to trash powerful nations, unfortunately from our shores. The second function is to provide a place (NYC) where delegates of Third World Nations can live large like they NEVER could in their own countries and fail to respect our laws under the mask of Diplomatic Immunity, most often demonstrated by their failure to pay their flagrant and numerous parking tickets in NYC. I want a new President that promises to get this still great Nation OUT OF THE UNITED NATIONS and GET THE UNITED NATIONS OUT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.
soros the anti christ Dec 18, 2010 2:50 AM	Lets see.... who do I know that live in Brazil, who wants world domination? Oh Yes! Geogre Soros!!
JesusHong Dec 18, 2010 2:56 AM	congratulations Julian and your idiot followers. You say you wanted a free and open internet, yet you gave the UN and the rest of the world's governments the perfect excuse to regulate (in the name of national security). You are either astoundingly stupid or lying about your motivations. Either way, the idiocy is unreal.
BillofNH Dec 18, 2010 2:58 AM	There is, on the left, a persistent push for global governance, against nationalism and patriotism and in favor of internationalism. A clear example of this is the corrupt UN/IPCC man made global warming scheme. Mankind's contribution to atmospheric carbon dioxide is negligible and of little or no effect on the planets ever-changing climate. Green is the new Red. They seek to impose global governance on us not by force of arms but by instilling fear. It is corrupt because governmental funding for flawed and even dishonest science has become the largest case of bribery in human history. Follow the bloody dots: control energy, control guns, control speech, and there you have it, a world fascist dictatorship. Think I am using hyperbole to call it fascism? "We were the first to assert that the more complicated the forms assumed by civilization, the more restricted the freedom of the individual must become”. ~Benito Mussolini
PizzaSlut Dec 18, 2010 2:59 AM	I'd like to nominate Kofi Annan to spearhead this regulating body and stop the criminals dead in their tracks! Someone tell the clowns at the UN to shut up.
ReConUSMC Dec 18, 2010 2:59 AM	This is just more George Soros "One World Order" B/s ! The UN is one of George Soros many Puppets on his many strings as is Obama ,the Media , Unions and all far leftist Politicians. The UN has become useless at America's expense . 166 Countries Vote against America and Israel 93.4 % of the time while America ''gives '' them Billions in freebies ...
pimpernel Dec 18, 2010 3:02 AM	The powers-that be will never give this up. That includes left, right and center politicians, and even so-called libertarians. (They will be unable to resist the corruption of power if they ever find themselves actually in office.) I foresee a return to real (modem-to-modem) peer-to-peer networking of bbs's &c. where the revolution can be planned ;). At least it will do away with the Flash and crap that's taken over the present-day 'net... Jimmy Mac67, I /wish/ the U.S. Constitution were still taken seriously, but in D.C. they don't give a purple doughnut
joesfatlip Dec 18, 2010 3:02 AM	Let me get this straight...a website reveals a bunch of dirty bureaucrat secrets so now all the dirty bureaucrats want to regulate all websites. I love their game of distraction too...please ignore all the horrible stuff at wikileaks instead attack Assange for revealing all the horrible stuff.
TimothyDNaegele Dec 18, 2010 3:11 AM	The UN is totally incompetent, and should not be put in charge of anything, much less the Internet or any facet of it. If anything, the UN should be done away with—or shuttered up in Manhattan, and shipped to Europe where it belongs. All financial funding of the UN by the United States should cease once and for all.
JG7 Dec 18, 2010 3:17 AM	So let me get this---America invents the INTERNET in the 70's( Dept of Defense and other folks) and the UN is going to tell us hoe to deal with it? UN freaking unbelievable..... UN should get out of America... move over tho some 3rd world country they espouse and drop dead. And oh by the way---we should pull out and stop being the largest supporter$$ wise (I think?). enough is enough... freaking Brazil---they fall off the face of the earth--would we even know it?
Unmitigated-Truth Dec 18, 2010 3:18 AM	What has the UN ever done that did not include corruption and/or bigotry. So now here is something that you can REALLY suck dry with corruption, so they are starting to salivate.... If you want to know what I REALLY think of the UN or Politicians in general, check out my blog at www.unmitigated-truth.com Keep the UN or any other greedy politician away from the people's forum for TRUTH.
Dmacwired Dec 18, 2010 3:19 AM	My two cents about the UN The UN is a worthless assembly of self serving tyrants attempting to secure their place in the world to the disadvantage of all other nations. The UN is rife with individuals whose only mission in life is finding programs and methods to access funds from other nations and placing it in their bank accounts. The UN is the biggest manifestation of hypocrisy masquerading as humanitarians in order to carry on with their day to day goals mentioned above. The UN is a massive facilitator for corruption of every kind. It is time that good people everywhere make their voices known that the UN needs to go - they It simply can not be worth the money consumed or the harm done regardless what measure of pretense they exhibit. The Kofi Atta Annan;s of the UN demand it !
Wayne Coady Dec 18, 2010 3:19 AM	If "governments" take control of the internet , then I would hope that consumers on the information highway would boycott such an act, by contacting "their" service providers to come and remove "their" equiptment. In others words we must disconnect . This type of a boycott would cause havoc , service providers would have to send out staff to remove equiptment and we would create loss of revenues to these companies. Unemployment would climb, resulting in fewer computer sales, we could CRUSH this industry with one phone call. Taxpayers have paid their share to help construct the information highway and with out us, the industry is nothing. Even if we did this for a short time, the cost to these providers would be " devistating". I suggest that we all contact the provider and let it up to them to lobby "governments" , either they sink or swim ...that depends on us. START THE BALL ROLLING NOW!!! Wayne Coady Cole harbour Nova Scotia Canada.
muley Dec 18, 2010 3:22 AM	I would rather see oversight of the corrupt UN
ollie007 Dec 18, 2010 3:25 AM	Yes, UN should be a place for third world and individuals to bash corrupt first world nations. unfotunately, it also a harbour of despots and more corruption. To destroy the NEW WORLD ORDER, or to improve it, come sign this petition http://humanrights.change.org/petitions/view/human_rights_for_everyone_or_human_rights_for_no_one_
ollie007 Dec 18, 2010 3:29 AM	Destroy the NWO, by dismantling its proxy:INTERNATIONAL CRIMINAL COURT http://humanrights.change.org/petitions/view/human_rights_for_everyone_or_human_rights_for_no_one_
Wayne Coady Dec 18, 2010 3:31 AM	The United Nations ...should be renamed the "League of Corrupt Nations" ! I truly believe that the best way to protest governments control of the internet is, not to walk the streets ...but instead us the option of disconnection. It them in the wallet, they only understand money. I hope someone post this on Twetts this and starts the ball rolling ..lets get ready for an all out boycott. Wayne Coady Cole harbour Nova Scotia Canada
BlownfuelCoupe Dec 18, 2010 3:32 AM	Who's to regulate the U.N.? They incessantly talk of Nation State equallity but the ultimate power will lie with just one man., and a handful of evil subordinates.
ali3nation Dec 18, 2010 3:32 AM	What a resounding indictment of the UN. Not one positive comment on this thread, no surprise there. But don't forget the recent hints from the FCC, now showing a similar interest in the internet. We really have to watch all of these guys or the internet will go the way of the rest of the USA.
Wayne Coady Dec 18, 2010 3:35 AM	The United Nations ...should be renamed the "League of Corrupt Nations" ! I truly believe that the best way to protest governments control of the internet is, not to walk the streets ...but instead us the option of disconnection. Hit them in the wallet, they only understand money. I hope someone post this on Twetts and starts the ball rolling ..lets get ready for an all out boycott. Wayne Coady Cole Harbour Nova Scotia Canada
JM in San Diego Dec 18, 2010 3:37 AM	Ah, yes, a bunch of politicians running the Internet! Next, Indonesian goatherds running the Sydney Public Transit. What a crock!
Bob Smith Dec 18, 2010 3:41 AM	Did someone comment about snopes.com being a reliable source of info? They may be in some cases, but not when it comes to Obama. They have nothing about the news that Obama has a CT SSN (for those of you outside of U.S., the U.S. Social Security Number (SSN) is issued with one of the numbers indicating the state where you were born, or the state where you first worked such that a SSN was required. Obama hasn't claimed to have been born in CT (Connecticut)(yet), nor has he ever worked in that state. This SSN issue is not being covered by almost everybody, yet the source I saw seems legit.
Bob Smith Dec 18, 2010 3:44 AM	The internet is truly the ultimate tool/resource for unfettered information. The tough part is determining fact from fiction. But if the globalists take the internet over, it will be very difficult to stop their desire to control the entire world. Right now, instantly, we can all learn what is going on, with a reasonable chance of learning the truth. If we had to rely on the printed news, we would lose both the time and the truth.
zbilicki Dec 18, 2010 3:45 AM	Get US out of the UN and the UN out of the US!
ozymandias Dec 18, 2010 3:49 AM	The un isn't responsible enough to pay its parking tickets. A bunch of corrupt, free-loading despots. Send them home.
Wayne Coady Dec 18, 2010 3:52 AM	The message is not about the UN..it is about control of the internet. We can do little about the UN right now, but we can plan to start a boycott against the "UN's" plan to set up "governments"control over the net. The UN does not own the Service Providers who we are consumers of, therefore we must deal with them and they can deal with the UN and "governments". We can do little about cutting of finances to the UN...but we can cut off finances to the Providers, we are the bill payers. Boycott the providers and if they want us as consumers of "their" service, then they best get on side with us or they will lose much capital, should we disconnect. WE ARE THE CONSUMER ..WITHOUT US THEY WILL GO BROKE. So please stay focused on the internet ..this we can have a say in..the UN can go to hell, and if the providers of the internet refuse to stand up for their customers ..then they to will follow the UN into hell. Think about this, if that group "Anonymous" can shut down Visa , Mastard Card with a key board, and have an impact ...then what kind of an impact will we have by requesting the providers to remove "their" hardwear from our homes, if "governments" take control of the internet? MONEY >>>MONEY >>> that is something they do not want to lose, and they will if customers leave. It is all about the INTERNET ...Not this gang of thugs at the UN Wayne Coady Cole Harbour Nova Scotia Canada Wayne coady Cole Harbour Nova Scotia Canada.
Tommyboyo Dec 18, 2010 3:53 AM	FUCK THE U.N.
Bub Dec 18, 2010 4:12 AM	Typical results of a world embracing liberalism, socialism, communism, Marxism, etc. This is exactly what you get. Liberty and freedom are dying at the hands of the voters. Our universities are staffed with hippies brainwashing our children into believing Stalin, Marx, Castro, Che and their ilk are the true heroes and freedom fighters of the planet. The last free nation on earth, the U.S., is being destroyed by a socialist president and liberal congress. You reap what you sow. God help us all.
hughesh2o Dec 18, 2010 4:14 AM	How about WE regulate the UN.......out of existance!!! HUM......wonder how much that would save$$$$$
RoyalStuart Dec 18, 2010 4:25 AM	The John Birch Society has always been right on this: "Get US out of UN"
tklimson Dec 18, 2010 4:26 AM	ARE YOU FRICKEN KIDDING ME. It's bad enough we have the US government intruding on every aspect of our lives BUT THE UN? Stay far far far away from my first amendment right to freedom of speech and anyone elses' for that matter.
sm94662 Dec 18, 2010 4:27 AM	as simple as create the PROBLEM, produce an overREACTION and magically come up with just the right SOLUTION . Please see through their methods people.
7kimba8 Dec 18, 2010 4:32 AM	"WikiLeaks sparks push for tighter controls" It SHOULD HAVE SPAKED tighter controls alright, but not on the leakers but rather the band of out-of-control killuminati.
Wayne Coady Dec 18, 2010 4:38 AM	All I see is to much governmet regulations , that keep citizens inside the box. This is why I will never again support a political party with my time..my money or my VOTE. Political party's are nothing more than legalized gangs used to hijack what we are led to believe is "government by the people for the people" , what a myth and we all got sucked in. Democracy for "WHOM?" Boycott your GD provider ...force them to lobby "these corrupt political parties to keep their dirty hands off the internet". Wayne Coady Cole Harbour Nova Scotia Canada
mickrussom Dec 18, 2010 4:50 AM	Mick from the People's Republic of Communist California. Oligarchical collectivists, progressives and police state authoritarians. You are pushing us into a corner. Proceed at YOUR OWN PERIL. Over 80 million gun owners in the USA and we will fight to the death for your LIBERTY, FREEDOM , FREE INTERNET AND OUR RIGHT TO KEEP AND BEAR ARMS. Bring it on your oligarchical collectivist swine. We will go to our graves before we are subjugated.
JesusHong Dec 18, 2010 4:51 AM	Julian ASSange and wikijerks brought this on as a direct result of their actions. We know the UN and US/other governments want to regulate and censor the internet. And those dumbbutts just gave them the excuse they needed to do so. Way to go, eeeeeejits!
NumbNuts2009 Dec 18, 2010 4:53 AM	Obama will pee with delight. This follows his "destroy America" agenda, and it could make him relevant somewhere.
Whosiwhatzit Dec 18, 2010 5:01 AM	UN has absolutely no legal right to regulate the internet. None. Zip. Nada! Our government has no righ to regulate the internet. It doesn't "belong" to them. The UN is nothing more than the core to try to build a one world government. Screw the UN and all the global socialist control freaks in it!
Wayne Coady Dec 18, 2010 5:07 AM	JesusHong and NumbNuts2009. First why hide behind a silly name ? Jullian Assange is not to blame for anything except for releasing the truth about our corrupt, dirty lying governments . He has done what every other good journalist does when they are handed "government" leaked documents. Bravo Jullian keep up the good work. When your government hides the truth about children being murrdered by a drug company , Phisfer and it takes WikiLeaks to confirm that the drug company was blackmailing a government official to bury the truth..."THINK" those children could have been your's , your brother or sister...then you tell me , why "governments" big business and banbkers want to have control of the internet? Our fight is not with Jullian assange..it with dirty politicians who are controlled by these corrupt political parties ...made up of lawyers, bankers, big oil and big money. Wake to "F" up, you sound like a government schell. Wayne Coady Cole Harbour Nova Scotia
Getten Dec 18, 2010 5:08 AM	When all or us force our leaders to STOP SENDING MONEY to the UN, we will all be better off.
sans culottes Dec 18, 2010 5:15 AM	Great idea. Let China, Libya and the Saudis determine how free men and women use the internet! Insist on your personal liberty. Defend the freedom of others when you can. Call out tyrants. V for Vendetta. Down with the striped pants brigade at the UN.
MICHAELNLA Dec 18, 2010 5:29 AM	U.S. OUT OF U.N. U.N. OUT OF U.S.
louis.wu Dec 18, 2010 5:47 AM	First, I agree with much of the sentiment expressed about the UN in the previous posts. Happy to see such consensus. As for Assange and WikiLeaks; exposing corruption is one thing, and should always be commended, but what WikiLeaks did with the wholesale and indiscriminant release of confidential cables was over the top. That, combined with the demonstration by "Anonymous" of their ability to affect internet commerce, has given the UN and other governments just the "crisis" they needed to "justify" controlling the internet. It was a very bad move. As for any doubts that the internet can be controlled... divest yourself of those doubts right now. Access and use can be controlled easily. They can insist on installation of new routers and firewalls to monitor all traffic, everywhere, and permit only licensed devices to have access. It can be done, they will do it, and no amount of yelling and screaming about it will stop them. If you still live in a country where you are free to elect your representatives, stop voting for people who embrace collectivism and the centralization of power, both nationally and globally. There might yet be time to turn the tide. Otherwise, you might want to invest in a shortwave radio.
Mooshoo Dec 18, 2010 5:58 AM	This is downright stupid. Who the hell is the UN? I am an American citizen. I am not a World Citizen.
Milo Dec 18, 2010 6:10 AM	Mr. Coadey What Mr. Assange did, pissed off a government, several in-fact. But he's no hero, and he's no journalist. Governments, don't like the light of day, and they don't like their citizens speaking about that light. When you piss off a government, there will be repercussions. But cutting off your Internet connection is exactly what they want you to do. I consider the Internet the greatest political tool since the Kentucky Long-rifle. Your ISP exists and operates within the borders of some country, and has no control over what that country can do to it. Countries can and do regulate what happens inside their borders, but the UN is NO country. It really believes it's above all that. That being said, boycotting or hitting "them - the ISP?" in the pocketbook, will raise a voice inside the country against the UN, but it will cutoff the light that is the Internet. "Dissolve the UN" should have been the cry for the last forty years, but it operates in secret, answering to literally no-one but the individual member nations. When you use your wallet to vote, make sure you know who you're boycotting. Your ISP isn't the target. It's the UN that wants in your pocket. It's the UN that wants to regulate carbon. It's the UN who wants to regulate the Internet. Are you seeing a pattern here? You change a government's mind with a vote. Look what we did in November. And next election day will get the rest, and they know it. This was directly driven by the Internet. And oh, they desperately hate it so! We need to work, to keep the lights on, boycotting ISP's turns them off.
cn14020 Dec 18, 2010 6:20 AM	PHUCK U INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITY SUPPOSED TO CARE FOR OUR BEST INTERESTS. WE WILL DO FINE, JUST ON OUR OWN. MIND YOUR WON BUSINESS. STAY IN YOUR IVORY TOWERS AND DO NOTHING...JUST LIKE THE UNITED NATIONS DID AFTER WW1. YOU ARE A WORLDWIDE, YET IMPOTENT BODY OF POINT-HEADED DO-NOTHING FOLKS. SO GET OUT OF THE WAY. WE HAVE WAYS OF SETTLING SCORES. .
GOD Dec 18, 2010 6:29 AM	The UN is the entity that requires regulating. Milow is on the right track. It's time to act! FREEDOM !! Let me know if you need some help. I tried to send the world a sign at last years UN meeting on December 9th, but all seems to have fallen on deaf ears. Oh, what to do next to get your attention. I've been sending help your way, but I don't want to scare you. Don't mind those lights in the sky. My buds are after the UN crooks that want to enslave my people. The UN will be very surprised at what their future holds. I will deliver you from this evil.
TruthinSF Dec 18, 2010 6:38 AM	Terrible idea. Saudi Arabia will use such regulation to ban all criticism of Islam internationally, and China will use it to ban criticism of socialism, including a ban on the word Democracy. We must fight all attempts at regulation, and instead protect our freedom to discuss subjects openly and honestly, no matter who in power is offended.
MAD DOG Dec 18, 2010 6:48 AM	It is time for the United States to get out of the United Nations. The United Nations must be told to pack up and leave the United States and find a new headquarters. Enough of these p*ss ant countries telling the United States citizens how to live and what to do. Why don't our Congressmen and Senators tell the United Nations where to stack their empties?
taxpayer Dec 18, 2010 7:07 AM	the powers that be whoever they are, were looking for any excuse to censor the internet so that all internet users will only see government propaganda. the same will go for radio and tv. you'll see.
caitlin291 Dec 18, 2010 7:11 AM	SCREW THE UN This our country and when other ple start realizing that these clowns think they own all of us for the sole purpose of controlling the world it is time to send all of those dumb asses packing. Get them out of the U.S. and send them where they belong and that is North Korea. EAT ON RICE YOU COMMIES. Oh by the way, there is not much to eat over there in North Korea. Oh well at least we tried. UN Drop Dead and get rid of the enitre communist gang as well. Rich
curtsncali Dec 18, 2010 7:12 AM	I agree w/ Wayne Coady. The people have to start learning what real opposition is and how to be fearless with their ability to stop Governments that try to oppress the people. It is not stupid marches in D.C. or calling and emailing your congressman. It is real boycotts in massive numbers that hurt them. Peaceful resistance. Jesus made the tax collectors come after him even though he knew they were collecting income tax, which was not legal. Only the foreigners were to be paying this tax. Same in USA we have a IRS and income tax that is not constitutional but people are too comfortable to risk prison. Once you stop worrying about these things and fight back, we will be free.
Wayne Coady Dec 18, 2010 7:17 AM	Mr.louis.wu and Milo: My point is we as consumers of the internet are in control. It is really quite simple to fix, BOYCOTT the people you buy your service from , the PROVIDERS. We do this by informing them that if THEY let the "government" to take over the internet , they will be required to retrive their equiptment , thus we cut off "their" means to make money. Other outcomes will be lay offs of staff.. and just the cost of removing equiptment hardwear alone will cut into profits. Jullian Assange is not , nor ever has been the problem...corrupt lying politicians and a dirty bureaucracy is. If we sit on our asses and do nothing , then "WE" are to blame...not Jullian Assange or anyother Journilists who has leaked government documents before. I hope you are not blaming Jullian Assange should you sit on your ass and not act? It is up to us to to defend our freedoms...not Assange. Boycott the Provider and force them to lobby against this control. Why is it we always place the blame at the feet of the messanger..Assange is the messanger for the truth ..want to keep your government honest, then stand up ...support Jullian Assange and Mr. Manning. They are Heros and should be given the Nobel Peace Prize. Just wait until you read the documents on the Bankers who were bailled out with your taxes and then turned around and helped themselves to big fat bonuses. The Taliban are laughing all the way to the bank..the Afgan government is diverting those tax dollars our governments are providing , and here we are tallying up a big fat debt . The Taliban know full well that every day the military have their feet on the ground...America is going bankrupt. Assange is trying to open our eyes to the dirt that is going on every daty at our expence. People like Buffett, Gates , Cheney and the Bush family just keep getting richer on you backs. Wayne Coady Cole Harbour Nova Scotia
Wayne Coady Dec 18, 2010 7:23 AM	MILO: You said boycotting the IPS servers only turn them off..correct , bt if governments are going to controll what you say or post..then they might as well be turned off. But i dought they will want to lose the revenues , I mean they REALLY ! REALLY LIKE MONEY . They will fight for their customers if WE demand it. I say boycott if they do not fight against government control. Wayne Coady Cole Harbour Nova Scotia Canada.
Wayne Coady Dec 18, 2010 7:37 AM	I would suggest that you all go to www.democracynow.org there you will get a much better understanding of how a free internet media site works. Amy Goodman is a great reporter and does what the media sheep of government does not. We have three main news tv stations..CBC..CTV and Global all are dancing with the devil. Wayne Coady Cole Harbour Nova Scotia Canada
spunky Dec 18, 2010 7:53 AM	Hands off my internet.
ONTIME Dec 18, 2010 7:54 AM	This is the UN's big play, with help from the communist friends and the globalist who already think there is a one world government, they now want to move a step closer to making their agenda the supreme guidance. However with so many in the USA willing to defund the UN and a new conservative ideology moving across the land, the idea of leting the UN put it thinking straight with less money from US coffers could change this idea that the UN was created to rule into the future. Freedom of speech good or bad is something tyrants across the globe do not want to deal with, man's rights to God given freedoms are like a poison pill. Assange is as commie as the day is long but his actions are interpeted by the UN as a way to weasel their own wish to dominate into the fray. To the UN I think the words,"Piss Off" would mean a lot coming from the US.
happyman Dec 18, 2010 8:01 AM	Well I'd hate to have to revert back to Bulletin Boards but we better get the software up and running. And some packet stations as well!
inthisdimension Dec 18, 2010 8:06 AM	THere are some design flaws in the internet that, if it were designed anew, could be repaired for a better internet. Give the old one to the UN. Build a new one. Let's see where the users wind-up.. on the one choked to-death by the totalitarians or the free one the US built once and will build again. And then we can send the UN after Internet I -- to the graveyard.
Wayne Coady Dec 18, 2010 8:07 AM	ONTIME : I get a kick out of peeople like you, in one breath you believe in a free internet, yet you tag Jullian Assange as a communist. I think McCarthy just might be your grandfather. I am not right wing or left..I am not a communist, but I do support the god given right to live free of government regulations ..laws that only make lawyers rich. If I were to have gotten those documents I too would have released themn. If I would have the video of the US chopper killing those innocent people I too would have released them. Either you choose to live in a police state or you do not. I do not. This is not about the UN..it is about do you have the balls to boycott the ISP servers to lobby against "government" take over of the internet. Assange woke people up to how dirty politicians and the bureaucracy is, the UN or the government were going to take control of the internet anyway and they did not need Assange to use as an excuse. As the old saying goes.."Fu-k , Fight, hold the light , shit or hold the shovel, but do not call Assange a Commie. Assange and Bradley Manning are noble brave citizens. Wayne Coady Cole Harbour Nova Scotia Canada
inthisdimension Dec 18, 2010 8:08 AM	Would this be the same kind of policy group that gave us the mythical global warming? The Durbin conventions? If you can - DO If you can't - TEACH If you can do neither - RUN FOR OFFICE if you fail at even THAT - GOT TO THE UN.
iggy Dec 18, 2010 8:09 AM	AND THE ATTEMPTED TAKE OVER BEGINS!!! Let the UN go somewhere else, funded by someone else, and do what they want as long as America and Americans have nothing to do with them..... Since when does the UN have the right to tell us what to do???Since Obama became president!!! Watchout Rush, Sean, Bill and others you are next.....
ACRScout Dec 18, 2010 8:15 AM	In my youth I swore a pledge of allegiance every day in school, and I still see it as valid today, I also swore an oath as a soldier to "support and defend the Constitution of the United States". At NO TIME have I ever sworn and oath to the UN, for if they want to regulate the internet, they might do so, but without me. I will still communicate as i choose, but the UN WILL NOT BE ALLOWED TO REGULATE THAT.
hanibal Dec 18, 2010 8:22 AM	OK America...you let this sleaz-bag government into your bed, under the guise of providing you SECURITY...now, you're gonna have to deal with the evil he has in mind for you. Enjoy the ride.
Cathbad Dec 18, 2010 8:24 AM	I grew up in New York. Over the years my opinion of the UN has dropped into complete dislike. I do not trust anything they want to do in any way. I certainly wouldn't trust them with the net.
Wayne Coady Dec 18, 2010 8:41 AM	The message is not about the UN..it is about control of the internet. We can do little about the UN right now, but we can plan to start a boycott against the "UN's" plan to set up "governments"control over the net. The UN does not own the Service Providers who we are consumers of, therefore we must deal with them and they can deal with the UN and "governments". We can do little about cutting of finances to the UN...but we can cut off finances to the Providers, we are the bill payers. Boycott the providers and if they want us as consumers of "their" service, then they best get on side with us or they will lose much capital, should we disconnect. WE ARE THE CONSUMER ..WITHOUT US THEY WILL GO BROKE. So please stay focused on the internet ..this we can have a say in..the UN can go to hell, and if the providers of the internet refuse to stand up for their customers ..then they to will follow the UN into hell. Think about this, if that group "Anonymous" can shut down Visa , Mastard Card with a key board, and have an impact ...then what kind of an impact will we have by requesting the providers to remove "their" hardwear from our homes, if "governments" take control of the internet? MONEY >>>MONEY >>> that is something they do not want to lose, and they will if customers leave. It is all about the INTERNET ...Not this gang of thugs at the UN Wayne Coady Cole Harbour Nova Scotia Canada
Sundancer Dec 18, 2010 8:57 AM	We should stand together to resist any regulation of the internet. Further improvement of the human condition requires more freedom, more individual responsibility, and and free transfer of information. We do not want any government to control the internet. Socialists around the world want internet control so they can control thought. Lets stop this cold. --Henry Pinney--
Wayne Coady Dec 18, 2010 9:56 AM	Sundance:( Henry Penny) What I do not understand is why people who care are called "socialists". I just do not undrstand , wouldn't a Capitalist stand just as much a a socialists from a controlled internet. What we have today is what I call a capitalists socialist communist political structure all rolled up in one ball...they all work for the same puppet master. Those who hold the money ...manage the controll, no matter if they a the Communist ..Capitalists or Socialists..they all want more POWER. I am just a human looking out to fight for what freedom I now have..I wonder what the Government Schells would put on me for a tag? Most likely Asshole I guess. visit my blog... www.hawkeyenews.blogspot.com. or www.waynecoady.blogspot.com. I do not hide..never did and never will. I served in the military ..but if I had to do it all over again..no Fing way would I put my life on the line for a corrupt governing political system. They toss everyone elses kids out to war ..while they put their own in university until the wars are over. Wayne Coady Cole harbour Nova scotia Canada .
Mentious Dec 18, 2010 10:06 AM	"WikiLeaks" is obviously a Zionist psychological operation. All it does is shore up and "confirm" the Zionist world view. ("We need to bomb Iran." "The 9-11 mass murder truth is a 'distraction,'" yada yada.) Oh, and it's obviously a ruse to take down the internet, too. Why would Brazil have a dog in this fight and champion this Big Brother move? Does Brazil want to send its young men to die and be maimed in Zionist wars, too? I don't get it. Makes me wonder: I wonder who's in charge of Brazil now...
Mike_in_Kyiv Dec 18, 2010 10:15 AM	The UN has a good memory and can see utility in managing the internet. During the "Oil For Food" scandal that was uncovered by Claudia Rosett (affiliated with the Foundation for the Defense of Democracy and Pajamas Media) on how the UN high command including Koffi Anan's son and the UN's #2 at the time made huge money from the oil for food program.....she layered the internet and talk radio with several indepth articles that laid the UN bare. Better to shut the up the likes of Rosett...CYA. The UN is one of those institutions the US needs to de-fund and deactivate to save our country from financial ruin. Their motives are sinister. This is the One World Order we must avoid at all costs.
es Dec 18, 2010 10:21 AM	This is very simple. History shows that essentially without exception that: a) Any time that government takes over a regulatory role in any enterprise, the enterprise suffers. b) The larger the government entity in the regulatory role, the worse the effect on the subject enterprise is. The UN is the biggest travesty of power in the world. It has absolutely NO business screwing up the freedom of the internet in favor of a bunch of socialist bums whose only goal is to over-leveraging their sorry standing in the world into power over those that feed them. Leave the internet alone as just about the last bastion of freedom in most of the world today.
Wayne Coady Dec 18, 2010 10:23 AM	Mentious : Whatt would you call senator Joe Lieberman ..whjo wants to put control on the internet and lock up anyone who dare speak out against government policies? Lieberman is a jew ..so why would he wish the same Nazi policies the jewish community lived under upon Americans? Maybe senator Lieberman belongs to psychological operation obviously a ruse to take down the internet, too. Wayne Coady Cole Harbour Nova Scotia
Wayne Coady Dec 18, 2010 10:27 AM	Or is Lieberman a (socialists) bum whose only goal is to over-leveraging his sorry standing in the world into power over those that feed him. Wayne Coady Cole Harbour Nova Scotia
Wayne Coady Dec 18, 2010 10:30 AM	Would religious organization fall into the class of being a bunch of socialists bums? Wayne Coady Cole Harbour Nova Scotia
Riquin Dec 18, 2010 10:43 AM	The Internet needs to be censored. It is a tool of the democratic forces and cannot be allowed. When the “Global Warming” scam came several months ago the Internet destroyed their science. Now is the TSA humiliation of citizens including the old and disable, women and children. Pictures of TSA taking advantage of these vulnerable citizens are displayed all over going viral. So it needs to disappear and fast. The Internet is creating too many headaches to the NAZI elite. They want you to have your news from ABC, NBC, CNN, CBS, etc. Then you will see news like this: “In a recent CBS News poll, 4 out of 5 Americans supported the use of full-body scans.” ----- LIES, LIES and LIES. The way we are going we are not going to have another election and if we have one it will be totally controlled. Oh I forgot!! And …. If you behave and follow their instructions they will give you a nice brown shirt.
Investigations Dec 18, 2010 10:46 AM	Just carefully record those countries, or any other country with which they may have extradition treaties, who support this sinister notion and make sure you never cross their borders unless armed and have a good escape route! Nazi Germany had nothing on these buggers!
Wayne Coady Dec 18, 2010 11:09 AM	ISN"T DEMOCRACY GREAT?
dtaylz Dec 18, 2010 11:27 AM	UN is just a self aggrandized wannabe in world events. Trouble is, just by saying they have power, people (the educated "follow-the-crowd" sort) start to believe them. Your Aussie government falls in that group. Like other power mongers, they'll grab as much as they can before real people revolt--and revolt, we will. Patriots are terrorists only because the government, not the people, say they are. The real terror comes from government/religious tyranny.
Randall Dec 18, 2010 11:45 AM	I've been to a couple of John Birch meetings. I wasn't impressed. Their lack of enthusiasm about the coming NWO threw up a red flag. The JBS was set up by Illuminati lap dogs, Welch 32 degree mason and the Koch brothers. The Koch's have a ranch in Nebraska and their cattle brand is the masonic compass and square. I feel the JBS was made to absorb a patriots works and passion and to let it come to no effect. Don't waste your time with a fake organization like the JBS. Also Google UN peace keepers roasting a child. Literally over a fire.
Wayne Coady Dec 18, 2010 11:50 AM	Would religious organization fall into the class of being a bunch of socialists bums? Wayne Coady Cole Harbour Nova Scotia
somewhereinus Dec 18, 2010 12:06 PM	Well the truth is now out! The REAL reason the US set back and did nothing at all to stop this evil Wikileaks site! THEY ARE WIKILEAKS! So why let go of some truth like this? So the rest of the truth can be CENSORED! Wake up sheeple, its only going to get worse from here. 2 and 2 will always be 4, don't let anyone tell you differently! The truths that the US and other countries are trying to keep from you they have kept well and they fully intend on keeping everyone in a sleep state. Don't go back to sleep! This online censorship by a supposedly meek little thing called the UN actually has very big teeth and will bite ya hard if you give into it!
louis.wu Dec 18, 2010 2:18 PM	@WayneCoady: You are assuming the internet providers will be given a choice. Boycotts have not stopped the TSA from digitally strip searching airline customers. People still need to fly. Most people will meekly register their Internet devices' MAC address to their name and citizen ID number in the UN/Interpol database. The new routers and firewalls will be able to trace any suspect activity back to the source device almost instantly. Banks will comply happily, so will all large corporations. They will all have access and you will not. Do you really think anyone will care by then? That freedom will be gone, just a memory, and there will be no getting it back. It must never get to that point. Those who care about freedom must elect leaders and lawmakers in their countries who are as concerned about liberty as you. They must shout a resonding NO! to the UN and statists everywhere. Otherwise, as I said before, invest in a shortwave radio... And stock up on essentials.
thePRSF Dec 18, 2010 3:36 PM	///At a meeting in New York on Wednesday, representatives from Brazil called for an international body made up of Government representatives that would attempt to create global standards for policing the internet - specifically in reaction to challenges such as WikiLeaks./// Eh, WikiLeaks wasn't done via hacking or a failure in internet security; it was perpetrated by (allegedly) a traitor in the US military who inturn handed over these thousands of TS documents. The only breach of security was within our own US federal government. So your argument Mr. "Takeover the Internet" is wrong to begin with. ///The Brazilian delegate stressed, however, that this should not be seen as a call for a "takeover" of the internet./// No! Of course not. Who would think that? What government body has EVER done anything good in the public interest by regulation or censorship? Maybe this government clown should look to China, North Korea, or even Iran for internet regulation? The Fascists and Communists regulate freedom all too well.
gmoe Dec 18, 2010 3:45 PM	No regulation for internet needed, rather some for the UN. We should rebuild the twin towers, and give the UN free rent on the top floors. Perhaps they then will have a more realistic view on the real world.
Mentious Dec 18, 2010 6:58 PM	You misunderstand my post. I'm not in favor of letting them get control of the internet. "Maybe senator Lieberman belongs to psychological operation obviously a ruse to take down the internet, too." Exactly. Notice how it's always Jews (in congress) pushing for control of the internet. The same Jews (particularly the media) have launched the Wikileaks psychological operation to "justify" control of the internet. I thought that was obvious in my original post. Not only does Zioleaks act as a justification for internet shutdown, but it's also full of "convenient" oopsie "leaks" that support the Zionist agenda: "We need to bomb Iran!" leaks one. "We need to bomb Iran!" leaks another. "We need to bomb Iran," "reveals" a 3rd. The foolish masses hear it as "leaks," and think, "Geez, it's a 'leak,' it must be the Truth. Maybe we need to bomb Iran." Wikileaks is a Zionist propaganda operation, and the Jews (and other bought slaves) in congress are working hand-in-glove with it. No, we don't need a new Nazi Judenreich taking over this country any more than it already has.
akw Dec 18, 2010 9:16 PM	"WikiLeaks sparks push for tighter controls." Who didn't see this coming?! Assange and the idiots who support him are so hellbent on attacking the US that they are blind to the ramifications of what they are doing.
Why? Dec 18, 2010 9:28 PM	The question is who benefits from stopping information from being published on the net. This is puzzling to me, so all ideas welcome...
Why? Dec 18, 2010 9:33 PM	Australia does not have a Democracy - Does Canada or the USA?
RONERNIE Dec 19, 2010 12:54 AM	The only thing wrong with the Internet is tese forums. Like this forum; filled with a mass of know nothings (every one of you) who spent the worse 5 years of their lives in kindergarten. You all go a way and the Internet is quite nice. Tell em' Ron Ernie said it!
mmmikee Dec 19, 2010 1:50 AM	The truth is on the web. The NWO must control the web to stifle the truth.
mmmikee Dec 19, 2010 1:50 AM	The truth is on the web. The NWO must control the web to stifle the truth.
Wayne Coady Dec 19, 2010 1:51 AM	I hear that the UN is under fire for making such a statement...some news organization and unions, chamber of commerce are pretty pissed. Wayne Coady Cole harbour Nova Scotia
Wayne Coady Dec 19, 2010 2:15 AM	louis.wu . The TSA and strip searches are a little harder to organize against. But on the other hand those who pay for internet services are in control...we can simply stop using "their" services. Keep in mind to date it is the internet that joins us..but in the hands of government , they will build walls to keep us a part. Yes a mass boycott and with the help of groups like" Anonymous" we can pull this off. Hit the Fuc--r's in the pocket. Think about it, the lose of advertisment revenues, the threat of job lay offs... loss of revenue to the ISP servers... companies like Master Card .. Visa ... Pay Pal , they would all get hit in the wallet . If they want us as customers , then leave the internet open and government hands off. If governments are so worried about their privacy, then they should stop being so GD dirty. They should focus on "their" own countries problems instead of making problems for other countries. Yes a boycott would work... if you had a business in your community and that business was noted for ripping its customers off, it is a safe bet that a boycott on the business would do one of one of two effects. They would either clean up or close. A good example of a boycott Rosa Parks... she said no more to taking a seat at the back of a bus.Her will and streangth set the course to improve the life style of many black citizens . People just have to band together and yes they can send a strong message. There are many many examples where people working together for a cause can do it. We can save the internet from the hands of corrupt politicians and a dirty bureaucracy..but we need to come together. Wayne Coady Cole Harbour Nova Scotia
Wayne Coady Dec 19, 2010 2:19 AM	RONERNIE: Where is your rubber boots..the rest of your flock in the Senate. That is a message only a political ass kisser would send. Wayne Coady
gary says Dec 19, 2010 2:35 AM	HA. They want control because of websites like this one... WHAT IS TAXED dot COM A computer scientist has data mined the tax code, and found government tax fraud. ‹(•¿•)› Just search tax law for "excluded income"
Wayne Coady Dec 19, 2010 5:04 AM	I read this morning on the Guardian a UK paper that the Bank of America has joined Master Card, Visa and Paypal to refuse funding donations for WikiLeaks. If you draw nothing else out of this action the banks have taken , you should take this. Bankers are in control of not only your money an how it flows...but they too are blocking our right to freedon of expression. The Sudanese President has diverted over $9 Billion dollars into United Kingdom Banks, and thanks to Wikileakes cables have shown this to be true. So, are you telling me that the Bankers didn't know something was up when this money came through their doors? Sure they did, and they also realized that , that money belonged to the starving people of Suda. Did those Bankers care ? No. And to think all the while we have NGO's knocking down our doors for donations for the people of Sudan , while a corrupt President and Bankers profit from this 9 billionn dollars. This is why WikiLeaks and the internet are important..without the internet remaining free of the shackles of dirty politicians and bureaucrats ..we would never learn this. So..to keep it free..we must organize and when government places "their" dirty hand on the internet ..we must all walk away from the ISP Providers...if we do not then freedom,will be shackled. Wayne Coady Cole Harbour Nova Scotia.
Wayne Coady Dec 19, 2010 5:07 AM	The Sudanese President has diverted over $9 Billion dollars into United Kingdom Banks, and thanks to Wikileakes cables have shown this to be true. So, are you telling me that the Bankers didn't know something was up when this money came through their doors? Sure they did, and they also realized that , that money belonged to the starving people of Suda. Did those Bankers care ? No. BUT THE BANKERS ARE WILLING TO TAKE STOLEN MONEY FROM THE SUDANESE PEOPLE , YET HAVE LITTLE PROBLEM CUTTING OFF WIKILEAKS. I GUESS THEY LIKE DIRTY MONEY . http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/dec/17/wikileaks-sudanese-president-cash-london
Wayne Coady Dec 19, 2010 5:34 AM	WikiLeaks Cables: Pfizer Targeted Nigerian Attorney General to Undermine Suit over Fatal Drug Tests Diplomatic cables released by WikiLeaks show the pharmaceutical giant Pfizer hired investigators to find evidence of corruption against the Nigerian attorney general to pressure him to drop a $6 billion lawsuit over fraudulent drug tests on Nigerian children. Researchers did not obtain signed consent forms, and medical personnel said Pfizer did not tell parents their children were getting the experimental drug. Eleven children died, and others suffered disabling injuries including deafness, muteness, paralysis, brain damage, loss of sight, slurred speech. We speak to Washington Post reporter Joe Stephens, who helped break the story in 2000, and Musikilu Mojeed, a Nigerian journalist who has worked on this story for the NEXT newspaper in Lagos. A new study by the watchdog group Public Citizen has found that the pharmaceutical drug industry has become the biggest defrauder of the federal government, surpassing the defense industry. Public Citizen found that the drug industry paid out nearly $20 billion in penalties over the past two decades for violations of the False Claim Act. More than half of the industry’s fines were paid by just four companies: GlaxoSmithKline, Pfizer, Eli Lilly and Schering-Plough.
Wayne Coady Dec 19, 2010 6:28 AM	A series of WikiLeaks cables single out for criticism the Council of Europe's British former secretary general Terry Davis, had attacked American officials on secret renditions. In a confidential cable from the US embassy in Strasbourg, US consul general Vincent Carver criticised the Council of Europe, the most authoritative human-rights body for European countries, for its stance against extraditions to America, as well as secret renditions and prisons used to hold terrorist suspects. "An investigation [by the Council of Europe] into renditions and 'secret prisons' in Europe connected to the US war on terrorism … created a great deal of controversy and anti-US sentiment in the Council of Europe," wrote Carver. The European court of human rights, the final court of appeal for human rights claims from the UK, whose judgments include the decision to ban deportations to countries which practise torture, is also singled out by the cables. "The European court of human rights … has also requested more information on pending British extradition cases to the US where it believes the prisoners might be sentenced in the US to life imprisonment with no possible appeal or automatic judicial review of the life sentence," Carver wrote. The cables also single out high-profile individuals within the Council of Europe for criticism, in particular British secretary general Terry Davis – now retired – who is described by the Americans as an "unpopular lame duck.
Harles Dec 19, 2010 7:04 AM	In response to Wayne Coady I respect your opinions and believe much the same as You that the Globalists are attempting to turn our World into a Totalitarian Global World Prison Camp and then I wnet to your Blog which is hosted by a Google Blog Site. I strongly feel that Google is firmly entrenched in the Globalist movement and no compnay other than Microsoft is more invasive an intrusive in Phishing and Gathering Data about each and everyone one of US. They are a Schill of the Bilderbergers. But thanks for your efforts nad maybe we can collectively awaken the People of this Planet to the Globalist agenda. Also for YOu Aussies check out Prison Planet on the web Alex Jones has been a longtime anti-Globalist nad has some amazing information on his site of which I am a subscriber, he is a person that we can support with enthusiasm in our attempt to preserve our Freedoms no matter what part of the Planet we reside in. Down with Globalism and long live Freedom.
WeStand Dec 19, 2010 10:37 AM	Who gives a hoot and a holler in a very hot place what Brazil, Australia or any other blooming tyranny wants. This is America and we the people do not want anyone taking away or negotiating away our right to free speech. Long live the politically incorrect!!
German aus lass Dec 19, 2010 11:13 AM	The UN was design to protect ethics persons only; but i'd thought every one was supose to be equal including us Europeans? but were not; and this is another attempt to stop any sort of Europeans from having a voice about how there European countries are going to end up; as soon as we type something about our country's deversity multiculralism,our post will be deleted. The UN was created to silince Europeans;period! As a German,I have no guilt,my government had nothing to do with this sh/t. AS for keeping the UN out of the USA,it should also be kept out of Europe also; I agree on both! and should be sent to the third war countrys that do have wars every single minute aginst there own kind. It's total Bullsh/t---pee off UN,leave us alone!
Pilotyoda Dec 19, 2010 4:41 PM	Wayne Coady: I respect your opinions and can see where you are coming from. I dont, however agree with all you say. This is highlighted by the differences between the US, Canada and Australia. A better way to combat this potential intrusion would be to establish permanent VPN and proxy based net access for all to use. If governments know in advance we cannot be stopped, they will stop this drive. I won't tip off the powers about benefits of net access developments, but most here on this site get the drift. As for those bleating about Zionist, or socialist, communist, or Green agendas, get real. These pushes come from the big end of town, who do not want any regulation for their activities, only regulation of your activities. The previously mentioned Drug companies, big banks, multinational investment corporations, along with the military, arms providers and political groups want no transparency. They just want the ability to profit and screw the consumer. Hence the push to get Wikileaks and control and censor the net. I have no problems with Government regulation, but those big businesses only want what you and I do regulated (see the oppressive copyright laws). They do not want regulation of their activities. They do not want better Workplace Safety laws, or better Product Liability laws or laws controlling anti-competitive behavior or protecting consumers. They don't want government interference in marketing to children, or misogynous, sexist practices, or peddling nicotine or alcohol. But they do want your money and the ability to have contracts providing no rights to consumers, while allowing them to screw the consumer as they see fit. It is these people who want to control the net just as they manipulate governments. They threaten to sue any site that provides league tables where the consumer can determine for themselves the best value for money or the fairest deal. A restricted net is just what they need! Tell your politicians, and the businesses you interact with that you will not tolerate this push.
Wayne Coady Dec 19, 2010 4:47 PM	Harles : I usually visit Alex Jones InfoWars site at least once a day. I do agree with much of what Alex is saying ,,but when he goes off and starts to rave out of control I tend to lose interest. But he does do good work. I really like the site http://www.democracynow.org/ , Ami Goodman is most like my favorite site to learn what is going on around the world. She provides a more investigative inside to the new , than we are getting here in Canada. The CBC is suppose to be "our " public broadcaster ..finance by the people...but of late they have turned into another political propaganda machine used by the politicians and the elite. The other two CTV and Global have always been a right wing tool for the business community. In other words we do not have a media that investigates stories for public consumption, but works to bury the truth. I still say that if we are to achieve a free internet , that is not controlled for the thives and corrupt political system ..we must boycott the ISP providers , boc them into lobbying governments to keep their dirty hands off the net. These ISP companies are nothing without customers , even if we just disconnected for a month and request that they remove their modoms from our homes, the cost of that alone would be a drain. If we disconnected the amount of capital that we would be removing from the network would be devistating in the whole of the business community. We would effect online banking..online sales ...unemployment would go up because of lay off's . Do you suppose that the business community would look forward to this kind of a boycott? This kind of a protest would be clean..they would not have an excuse to send the police into putting us down or arrest us..this would be a silent protest m and it would really ...really "F" them up. Hopefully I will have a new computer within the next few week..then if no one else has started this boycott action on Twitter or Facebook I will. You mentioned google ..well if they were really smart , they would stand up to government and tell them that their users are not going to stand for this and Facebook too should get with it and inform govrnments to keep their dirty hands off the internet. If they do not the their lack of action ..should speak loud . Wayne Coady Cole Harbour Nova Scotia Canada
Wayne Coady Dec 19, 2010 4:53 PM	Pilotyoda : To put in place a VPN and proxy based net access for all to use..sounds good, but the wired system is owned by the ISP, providers. The cable that connects me to the net ..belongs to Eastlink..Bell Allient..Shaw and god knows who else. Wayne Coady
Wayne Coady Dec 20, 2010 2:07 AM	It was reported today on CBC Micheal Enrights show that if they restructure the internet uo to 5000 jobs would be lost in Canada alone and that advertisement companies would suffer . You should be able to find the podcast on this show, it usually runs a week behind . link http://www.cbc.ca/thesundayedition/ So, if restructuring the internet would bring on this kind of havc..imagine what a boycott against government control would do. Wayne Coady Cole Harbour
Wayne Coady Dec 20, 2010 8:00 AM	There is now a fear within the business community that if government takes control of internet , their customer base will nolonger support them. I still say hit them in the wallet..boycott the ISP Providers and then watch them flounder. Wayne Coady Cole Harbour Nova Scotia Canada .
Wayne Coady Dec 20, 2010 10:26 AM	Well..Well, Hugo Chavez want "government" to control the internet. I bet Chevez is dearly loved now by the United States, Canada and Australian Governments. Chevez is their next best friend. I mean if it is good enough for Chevez , it good enough for them. "Corrupt governments make strange bedfellows"!!!! ............................................. CARACAS, Venezuela -- Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez defended plans for a law that would impose broadcast-type regulations on the Internet, saying Sunday that his government should protect citizens against online crimes. Chavez's congressional allies are considering extending the "Social Responsibility Law" for broadcast media to the Internet, banning messages that "disrespect public authorities," "incite or promote hatred" or crimes, or are aimed at creating "anxiety" in the population. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/12/19/AR2010121902461.html Wayne Coady Cole Harbour Nova Scotia
Wayne Coady Dec 20, 2010 2:46 PM	Are we winning yet ?
AsmodeusNOIR Dec 20, 2010 7:04 PM	Okay... How about you get to moderate the internet, when we get to moderate the government? Fair deal.