Analysis: Is Victoria stealing New South Wales' ICT crown?

 
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On paper

According to a March study by Access Economics, commissioned by the NSW Government, the state is at risk of losing ICT business to the more aggressive tactics of its Southern neighbour.

Access Economics noted the risk of "increasing interstate competition, from Victoria and Queensland in particular, to attract more ICT industry to their states."

Sources have told iTnews that even one of the largest software companies in the world, currently based in Sydney, is actively scoping the Melbourne property market.

Lenders told iTnews last month that Victoria "isn't just competing with New South Wales and Queensland" but is chasing the big international tech investment dollars.

The Victorian Government is "taking action", he said, to attract business investment.

But Victoria has some way to go to steal the crown from New South Wales.

According to the New South Wales Government, the state boasts 43 percent of Australia's ICT industry, employing 155,000 people versus 87,000 in Victoria.

The list of global IT companies based in Sydney is long and illustrious - Google, Optus, SAP, Microsoft, IBM, Fujitsu, Oracle, CA, Citrix, Intel, Cisco, Alcatel-Lucent, Avaya, Cisco, Dell, Canon, CSC, Fuji Xerox, Epson, HDS, Logica, Nortel and Unisys among them. The New South Wales Government contributes $5 million a year to National ICT Australia (NICTA), and contributes its resources to several ICT centres of excellence.

While Victoria will have 425 staff in NBN Co's NOC, the company's North Sydney corporate office has some 3,000 square metres at its disposal - enough room for around 300 staff should NBN Co choose to fill it.

Which is the right approach?

Chris Goldstone, managing director of data centre developer Strategic Directions said that beyond the level of state governments - individual regions have varying "appetites for infrastructure."

Some regions, he said, have made a conscious effort to put together a digital economy strategy and are actively open to opportunities.

Others either "don't see the value of digital infrastructure" or "have bigger issues to solve that aren't related to IT."

But Bevan Slattery, who will next year quit Pipe Networks to start his own data centre building business, NextDC, believes the tide is turning in favour of the IT industry.

"There seems to be a fair bit of interest in various state governments to attract substantial infrastructure development, particularly in areas of technology," he said.

To Slattery, the prospect of a tax rebate or cash incentive is lower down the list than any help a given government can provide to stand up the investment in the first place.

"The things that would be attractive to me are the help a government provides - help to get a better understanding of the market we are looking to invest in, information that will help us make an investment decision, or introductions. A small tax rebate or cash payment is nice, but whether the business will be successful is the overriding reason for any investment decision."

What is your experience with investing in New South Wales versus Victoria? Are tax deductions or cash handouts the right incentive? Have your say below...


Analysis: Is Victoria stealing New South Wales' ICT crown?
"@heavenlyhaloes the council is a good idea but it doesn't have to work in competition. In my talks with the likes of Craig Barrett, Steve Ballmer, Bill Gates, Jim Barksdale and others big US IT ..."
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Comments: 6
Gall of it
Jul 13, 2010 8:53 AM
Victoria is so far behind it will be a long time before a significant shift . These builds are just catch up as spare capacity is so low in Melbourne and need more large scale sites to give option and meet government demand.Most of the developments you mention have commited customers growth so will not open much much space in market. NSW may lose IT share because of power infrastructure is dicating industry growth via availability and cost levels (where you can build & and power costs )
BrettWinterford
Jul 13, 2010 9:51 AM
@Gall - are you suggesting the grid is less reliable in Sydney than in Melbourne? I've always assumed the opposite was true, cheers, Brett.
nate.cochrane
Jul 13, 2010 10:42 AM
It's interesting how these things swing in cycles.

Melbourne kickstarted the modern IT industry when Trevor Pearcey's team built the world's fourth and Australia's first stored-program computer, CSIRAC, in 1949.

Through the '90s and under the mantle of the world's first multimedia minister (later IT minister), Alan Stockdale, the Victorian government aggressively won over IT vendors and created Australia's first indigenous multimedia industry that included accommodation for startups at the Tea House in South Melbourne. This was orchestrated by the newly formed Multimedia Victoria, the first state government department that was a central point of contact for ICT investment. Today, the Game Developers Association of Australia is still based in that state with funding from its government.

For years, Melbourne was home to research labs such as HP, Telstra, Ericsson, CSIRO (creator of CSIRAC), Nortel, Bureau of Meteorology, RMIT (now Enex) and NEC, fuelled by graduates from Monash and RMIT primarily and University of Melbourne to a lesser extent. Australia's early broadband decelopment happened in Clayton between NEC and Telstra Research Labs. NEC's cloud services grew out of that heritage and it was a necessary factor in NBN decisions announced recently.

And some of Australia's most entrepreneurial IT startups such as Lindsay Cattermole's Aspect (created the Maxi billpay system, sold to Peter Kazacos' Kaz that was bought by Telstra), Domenic Carosa's Destra and the world's longest-running multimedia entertainment developer, Melbourne House (now Infogrames), built by Fred Milgrom and his wife Naomi (he now runs zazz.com.au) spawned in Melbourne.

Later, when business process outsourcing became funky, world leaders from India such as Wipro and HCL were quick to buy into Victoria. First among the Indians was Infosys, which bought Gary Ebeyan's Melbourne developer Expert Information Systems to kickstart its Australian operations (it elevated Ebeyan into the CEO role).

Research and science that generates opportunities for IT businesses and practitioners has long been of interest to the state. The Synchrotron is based in the ICT R&D hub of Clayton-Blackburn in the city's east. Biotech , a related field, was a focus and led to the cochlear implant and anti-flu medication, Relenza developed in the state.

It wasn't all an upward curve for the state. Successive cutbacks in funds for international labs by their offshore parent companies saw many close down and the loss of thousands of jobs. At the same time, decisions by big customers such as Telstra cruelled the efforts by some of those labs. A flight of jobs following the demise of the Kennett government has only recently been arrested and the results are still patchy. But through all that about a third of Australia's ICT industry and fully about half its graduates have come from the southern state, with Monash long-recognised as the leading provider of skills in the nation.

The danger that state governments have faced through the years is bidding against each other for overseas business. Big IT businesses travel the world looking for the best deals from governments and pitting them against each other. This was especially the case with Intel R&D and fab plants in the '90s, which Stockdale was keen to lasso for his state but never was able to bring home.

A strategic approach with states specialising in particular areas and bidding as a national consortium for business would generate greater returns to taxpayers.
EMwyres
Jul 13, 2010 11:56 AM
This is NOTHING to do with a "Sydney vs Melbourne" debate. If Sydney has a problem with contracts and deals Melbourne lands, do better next time. If Melbourne has a problem with contracts and deals Sydney lands, do better next time.

Brisbane, Adelaide, and Perth, along with major regional centres should all be getting involved too - and they are of course trying. It's all about who wants it the most - clearly Melbourne/Victoria is doing a very good job of it at the moment.

Instead of whining about it - work harder to make every possible location better. If you don't win one of the massive deals, the improvements you make might see you win two smaller deals, that you'd never have won without the improvements.

This state-by-state parochialism does nobody any favours.
heavenlyhaloes
Jul 31, 2010 12:41 AM
@Nate - my fears are that if we use a national consortium as an interface to international investors, we are putting red tape between our IT industry and investment. This is likely to scare away investors, as they prefer freer market conditions.

Instead of being fearful of being played off against each other, it is more productive to implement a national IT development strategy that will improve the standard of our IT services and infrastructure nationally. Not only will this benefit all Australians, this will naturally attract more investment to Australia, and so create more tax revenue.

Some smart cookies in Canberra already thought of this, and created the IT Industry Innovation Council (which is part of the the Department of Innovation, Industry, Science and Research) to work on and implement such a strategy.
nate.cochrane
Aug 3, 2010 1:09 PM
@heavenlyhaloes the council is a good idea but it doesn't have to work in competition.

In my talks with the likes of Craig Barrett, Steve Ballmer, Bill Gates, Jim Barksdale and others big US IT companies are more comfortable dealing with government than they are relatively small Australian businesses.

They rove the world looking for the best deals from governments and they're biggest customers are public sector.

What they don't like is the speed or frequency of change or being held to governments changing their minds.

But the rise in PPPs should show that there's no shortage of big backers keen to take taxpayer dollars.

What they would like with a national consortium is the sense of scale - organisations are always most comfortable dealing with other organisations that are about the same size.
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