Conroy delays ISP filter until after content review

 

Updated: Wholesale customers escape voluntary blocking by large ISPs.

Communications Minister Stephen Conroy will delay the introduction of mandatory ISP-level filtering until a proposed review of refused classification (RC) guidelines is completed.

That could push the introduction of a mandatory filtering regime out until at least July or August of next year, based on the review taking a year, according to tweets by Crikey's Canberra correspondent Bernard Keane.

Conroy said today that the Government would recommend a review of RC guidelines to State and Territory ministers, following consultations with the Federal Minister for Home Affairs, Brendan O'Connor.

States and Territories are responsible for the enforcement of classification decisions, according to the Attorney-General.

Each has classification enforcement legislation that complements the Commonwealth Classification Act but sets out "varying classification requirements".

Conroy said a review of the range of material included in the RC category would help determine if it "correctly reflected current community standards".

"The Government will recommend a review of the RC classification to State and Territory Ministers be conducted at the earliest opportunity," he said.

"As the Government's mandatory ISP filtering policy is underpinned by the strength of our classification system, the legal obligation to commence mandatory ISP filtering will not be imposed until the review is completed."

Conroy said RC content included "child abuse material, bestiality, extreme violence including rape, detailed instruction in crime or drug use, and incitement of a terrorist act."

Google Australia's managing director Karim Temsamani cautiously welcomed the review.

"We're heartened to see [the] Government has taken account of the genuine concerns expressed by many on the Refused Classification category," he said.

"Our primary concern has always been that the scope of the proposed filter... goes way beyond child sexual abuse material and would block access to important online information for all Australians.

"We welcome the recommendation to conduct a review of the RC classification and we look forward to the opportunity to provide input."

Transparency measures

In addition to the initial RC review, Conroy announced plans for an "annual review of the RC Content list by an independent expert who will be appointed in consultation with industry".

He said that any content subject to a complaint by a member of the public would be classified by the Classification Board and that there would be "clear avenues for appeal of classification decisions".

That appeared to be a response to criticism leveled at the Government over the appearance of seemingly innocuous URLs that were exposed on a leaked version of the Australian Communications and Media Authority (ACMA) blacklist last year.

"The RC content list of URLs provides direct access to child abuse material so it cannot be published the way a list of prohibited book titles or movies can be," Conroy said.

"The public needs to have confidence that the URLs on the list, and the process by which they get there, is independent, rigorous, free from interference or influence and enables content and site owners access to appropriate review mechanisms."

Internet users that attempted to navigate to a page hosting RC content would be served a standard "block page notification" that gave them the option "to seek a review... if they believe the decision [to block that content] to be incorrect."

ISPs agree to voluntary filter

News of the RC review came as internet service providers Telstra BigPond, Optus and iPrimus agreed today to voluntarily filter out a list of child abuse URLs.

Conroy welcomed the "socially responsible approach" which he said would reach some 70 percent of Australian internet users.

"I encourage other Australian ISPs to follow the example of these ISPs, as well as the large number of ISPs in other western democracies, who already block this abhorrent content," he said.

The block list is maintained by ACMA.

"Over the coming months we will work with other members of the internet industry and Government to implement this approach which we believe will have broad industry support," Optus director of government and corporate affairs Maha Krishnapillai said.

"We will develop a voluntary code to focus on blocking child abuse and child pornography material which will bring Australia into line with the voluntary filtering schemes being successfully implemented by ISPs in the UK, other parts of Europe and Canada."

An Optus spokeswoman said that the filtered service would be compulsory for all users and that there was no opt-out.

A Telstra BigPond spokesman confirmed similar arrangements.

In a statement, Telstra also said it "understood the Government would ensure that ISPs would not be legally liable for voluntarily blocking child pornography and abuse sites as determined by ACMA."

Wholesale customers given choice

Optus' decision to participate in the voluntary filter arrangement would not impact its wholesale customers, a spokeswoman for the telco told iTnews.

It was understood the telco was "investigating technical options" that might assist it to provide a 'clean feed' to smaller ISPs that wanted to join the voluntary scheme but couldn't afford the necessary kit.

But Optus' voluntary decision to participate would not be forced onto its wholesale customers, the spokeswoman said.

A Telstra spokesman also told iTnews it "wasn't Telstra's intention to block wholesale customers".

"The decision is at their discretion," he said.

He also said Telstra was examining the type of assistance it might be able to offer Telstra Wholesale customers who wished to join the voluntary blocking scheme.


Conroy delays ISP filter until after content review
"i dont care if they use a filter or not. as long as it has a freely viewable list of what they are blocking, and why. people then should be able to contest or justify the reasons for unblocking ..."
By MichaelP
 
 
 
Comments: 23
Mordd
Jul 9, 2010 2:08 PM
Here's a questions for you all: If having an internet filter was the trade off we had to make in order to get an R18+ rating for games and other currently non-classifiable media, would you accept this trade off?
Thysce
Jul 9, 2010 2:38 PM
@Mordd: No. Freespeech internet "AND" R games, or protests will ensue.
imortl
Jul 9, 2010 2:41 PM
I have to agree. If they just went back to the original statement before the election that it was compulsory for ISP's to offer it but at the end users request, then we are getting close...
unkle
Jul 9, 2010 2:47 PM
'Trade off' ????? one question - WHY?

Why as a Democratic society should we have anything pushed on us that a majority do not want! Regardless of what it is.


umbria
Jul 9, 2010 3:46 PM
unkle is right, but the effect of his statements is the opposite to what he intended, I suspect:

A majority of Australians do not want child porn and gratuitously violent video games.

We are a democratic nation.

Therefore the government of the day has a mandate to implement measures to prevent access to them.

You may hold a different opinion, but this is the political reality.
unkle
Jul 9, 2010 3:55 PM
I agree with you on the CP as most normal people would regardless of Nationality.

As most discussions have centred on whether filters would block CP at all I'm not going to go down that path unitl it's proven before the filter get's thrust upon us.

If it works and proves long term success then that is a great leap ahead of getting rid of CP off the net. But i do think if that's the case then a consortium of businesses and groups and not just the Government and Religious fanatics of all backgrounds control.
viditor
Jul 9, 2010 5:04 PM
The thing is that these filters don't block child pornography (unless it's inadvertently). About the only effective thing they will do is prevent the elderly from reading up on assisted suicides...
anonymous
Jul 9, 2010 5:28 PM

Conboy may have deferred mandatory imposition of government censorship to a time which is conveniently past the next election. But this hardly counts as any sign that he is, or ever has been, listening to anybody but his godsquad lobbyists.
TruthSphere
Jul 9, 2010 7:50 PM
The filter protects one thing only, the churches interests. The same churches that harbour pedophiles... go figure!?
Sams
Jul 9, 2010 9:15 PM
umbria: "A majority of Australians do not want child porn" .. "Therefore the government of the day has a mandate to implement measures to prevent access to them."

'Effective measures' I think you mean. The filter won't be the slightest bit effective, and probably never will be - even if its scope was vastly enlarged to other protocols. It is well documented that filtering software finstalled at home is a superior solution for those that want it (which evidently is very, very few. judging from the take-up when it was available). Additionally, the filter provides a platform that is way too convenient for government abuse, and that is simply unacceptable.

The majority of Australian also want a IT/comms minister that isn't a moron w.r.t the Internet. That is also a "political reality".

Edited by Sams: 9/7/2010 09:29:28 PM
Sams
Jul 9, 2010 9:19 PM
Sorry to the editors for pointing away from your site, but there are some good quotes from the EFA here:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/07/09/2949728.htm

"The internet operates on a matter of minutes or seconds so having a board of government censors look at web pages ... it's absurd when you think about it."

""When parents put a filter on their home computer for their children, it's not based on classification,".. "It looks at the content in real time to decide if it's appropriate for their kids" .. "The parents can decide what criteria are in use there."
Pilotyoda
Jul 10, 2010 10:17 AM
It becomes more apparent over time that politics in this country has deteriorated to lowest common denominator - populist pandering to get a vote. What happened to having principles and serious policies and sticking to them so that the voters can weigh up and vote for the group that best matched the voter criteria.

The costs of the filter trial would probably double the ability of child protection services to do their job; which shows just how out-of-touch Conroy and his one-eyed Christianity really is. Both the Liberals and Labor keep changing on the fly to ensure they get a vote but neither really cares about policy that is good for Australia with real in-built checks and balances.

Seriously, regardless of the party that you may vote for, the best thing is for those in Conroy's electorate to vote him out of his seat, thus sending a clear message to whoever takes government that we will not tolerate this insanity. AS mentioned elsewhere, the Greens policy is NO CENTRALISED filter.

As for ISP's implementing voluntary filtering, this is an implementation of Conroy's policy by stealth as the Government can say it was not us, but done by independent businesses which have even less oversight.
A question to all: For whom is this system of filtering a panacea? A little thought would suggest that the last people in this country who would search for, or accidentally find, child pornography, would be those under 18. So protecting our kids is a serious piece of emotional crap to cover for more insidious government control.

Those who produce and use this criminal stuff must be laughing. They use all sorts of methods not covered by the filter to commit their crime of child abuse, and one is simple: the telephone.
anonymous
Jul 10, 2010 12:21 PM

Conboy claims that the interim filter will be voluntary (for service providers, but not for their customers) until after the election.

The govt concealed their real intent before the last election, saying the filter would be optional but then changing it to compulsory. Anyone who believes this latest pollywaffle will not be followed by draconian changes post-election would certainly be courageous.
peterniss
Jul 11, 2010 12:07 AM
I have my own little story about how censorship is just wrong. I am currently living in the UK where mobile broadband access is under manditory censorship and you must prove you are over 18 in order to access some sites. I had no knowledge of this until today when my regular broadband went down and I had to resort to using my USB mobile broadband dongle. I didnt think much of it until I went to browse a website I usualy visit called hackaday. This website contains nothing I would class as adult related, certainly no porn, etc. But when I went to check the news of the day I got a screen telling me the site contains adult material and I would have to ring up the helpdesk to get it removed. Amazed at this I rang the help desk who told me they could not remove the block without a valid credit (not debit) card to prove I am over 18 and that they would charge me £2.50 to validate my age. I asked if they could remove the site from the list given it contains nothing of an adult nature and they told me they couldnt and that only the government could. Given that I dont have a uk credit card I cant do this so I cannot access hackaday to read up on the news. I thought this was a fine example of why manditory censorship is a very bad idea.
Bourkie
Jul 12, 2010 9:46 AM
Funny how the government just announced it will move all RC decision to the Classifications Board (away from ACMA)...

Yet these three ISPs have said they'll get their Child Abuse blacklist from ACMA...

WTF?
Maxxi2
Jul 12, 2010 3:49 PM
Bourkie, the govt announced long ago they were moving the blacklist to RC, and RC has always been a Classification Board task.

Until the RC list is reviewed, these ISPs have agreed to block child abuse URLs, which will be a list managed in the meantime by ACMA, and has been announced to include the IWF list and the current ACMA blacklist entries that are still child abuse.

All there to read up on. ACMA will still manage the RC blacklist delivery and maintenance in the future, but the CB will be making the entry decisions and handling appeals etc.
DP
Jul 12, 2010 4:00 PM
I am against child porn, but i highly doubt any child porngraphy is transferred through the http protocol. If they were and discovered, why are they added to a black list, instead of being arrested?! Spend more time and money catching a prosecuting than trying to block!
Bourkie
Jul 13, 2010 1:40 PM
@Maxxi2

Yo seem to know all the details... what date are Optus going live with their blacklist?

Going to test reverse engineering the blacklist =)
Digger11
Jul 13, 2010 3:13 PM
Hey Mordd (and others),

Slightly off-topic, but the answer to this may make us understand where everyones views are coming from.

http://www.news.com.au/features/federal-election/federal-election-2010-whats-your-politics/story-e6frfllr-1225888957047

I am smack bang between Obama and Abbot.
Pilotyoda
Jul 13, 2010 5:19 PM
@Bourkie.
The lists are contained in most personal filters and some are editable!
The ones that go on-line for the data are similarly readable
johnpro2
Jul 14, 2010 9:30 AM
Sen Conroy receives more replies than all other threads combined. I'm one of the few that seem to like the good senator.
Blocking of unsuitable sites is appropriate ...but as usual all contentious issues are shelved or referred to another committee esp when elections are neigh.

Jp
Digger11
Jul 16, 2010 9:01 AM
JP, I totally agree - but you will not find many of the keyboard warriors around here understand our societal views.
MichaelP
Jul 17, 2010 12:48 AM
i dont care if they use a filter or not. as long as it has a freely viewable list of what they are blocking, and why. people then should be able to contest or justify the reasons for unblocking or blocking of the content. im all for the filter as long as it doesnt impact speed and connection too much and as long as we are aware of what is being blocked and why..
Comments have been disabled for this article.
 
 
Top Stories
CenITex to move from IT provider to broker
Documents reveal new strategy.
 
eHealth measures missing the point
Opinion: When will the PCEHR lead to patient outcomes?
 
Photos: Google Glass gets real
Coming soon to an office near you.
 
 
Sign up to receive iTnews email bulletins
   FOLLOW US...

Latest VideosSee all videos »

Bankwest builds continuous delivery capability
Bankwest builds continuous delivery capability
To automatically deploy test/dev sandboxes by mid-year.
Veterans' Affairs sets sights on modernisation
Veterans' Affairs sets sights on modernisation
Data safe with Human Services, CIO says.
Citi Australia drops platform customisations
Citi Australia drops platform customisations
Technology chief shifts focus from building to leveraging systems.
VicRoads restructures IT team
VicRoads restructures IT team
Department moves to align with industry benchmarks.
Zurich Australia extends IT team offshore
Zurich Australia extends IT team offshore
Malaysian staff served from Australian data centres.
Leigh Berrell - Utilities CIO of the Year
Leigh Berrell - Utilities CIO of the Year
Yarra Valley Water CIO Leigh Berrell accepts his Benchmark Award for Utilities CIO of the Year.
Wayne McMahon - Retail CIO of the Year
Wayne McMahon - Retail CIO of the Year
Domino's Pizza CIO Wayne McMahon accepts his Benchmark Award for Retail CIO of the Year.
Inside Perpetual's ongoing IT transformation
Inside Perpetual's ongoing IT transformation
CIO Jenny Levy discusses how outsourcing will help the firm "simplify, refocus and grow".
Managing Complexity - Defence's Daniel McCabe
Managing Complexity - Defence's Daniel McCabe
Daniel McCabe, Assistant Secretary of Australia's Department of Defence, provides the audience at the iTnews Data Centre Strategy Summit with a deep dive into the organisation's data centre consolidation program.
How Facebook designed the data centre from scratch - Marco Magarelli
How Facebook designed the data centre from scratch - Marco Magarelli
The full keynote by Facebook data centre architect Marco Magarelli at the Australian Data Centre Strategy Summit. Magarelli details the design considerations behind the social network's Prineville, Oregon; North Carolina and Luleå, Sweden data centres.
Modernising Legacy Data Centres - Telstra's Jon Curry
Modernising Legacy Data Centres - Telstra's Jon Curry
Telstra general manager of managed data centres Jon Curry guides the audience at the iTnews Australian Data Centre Summit through the build of the telco's Clayton, Victoria data centre.
NSW Government launches NABERS data centre rating tools
NSW Government launches NABERS data centre rating tools
Matthew Clark from the NSW Department of Environment guides facilties managers through the details of the new NABERS data centre energy rating tool at the Australian Data Centre Strategy Summit.
NABERS launch panel: Australian Data Centre Strategy Summit
NABERS launch panel: Australian Data Centre Strategy Summit
Matthew Clark (NSW Dept of Environment), Greg Boorer (Canberra Data Centres), Glenn Allan (National Australia Bank), Mike Andrea (Strategic Directions) and Bob Sharon (Green Global Consulting) discuss the impact of the NABERS data centre rating.
Judges notes: Fortescue Metals [The Benchmark Awards]
Judges notes: Fortescue Metals [The Benchmark Awards]
iTnews' panel of judges discuss Fortescue Metals 'New World of Work" project, one of three shortlisted finalists for the Industrials category of the CIO Benchmark Awards.
Judges notes: Retail [The Benchmark Awards]
Judges notes: Retail [The Benchmark Awards]
iTnews' panel of judges discuss the shortlisted finalists for the Retail category of the CIO Benchmark Awards.
Judges notes: Pacific Aluminium [The Benchmark Awards]
Judges notes: Pacific Aluminium [The Benchmark Awards]
iTnews' panel of judges discuss Pacific Aluminium's lightning fast service desk refresh, one of three shortlisted finalists for the Industrials category of the CIO Benchmark Awards.
Judges notes: Domino's Pizza [The Benchmark Awards]
Judges notes: Domino's Pizza [The Benchmark Awards]
iTnews' panel of judges discuss Domino's Pizza's shift to hosted services, one of three shortlisted finalists for the Retail category of the CIO Benchmark Awards.
Judges notes: McDonald's Australia [The Benchmark Awards]
Judges notes: McDonald's Australia [The Benchmark Awards]
iTnews' panel of judges discuss McDonald's Australia's new self-service portal for employees, one of three shortlisted finalists for the Retail category of the CIO Benchmark Awards.
Judges notes: ING Direct [The Benchmark Awards]
Judges notes: ING Direct [The Benchmark Awards]
iTnews' panel of judges discuss ING Direct's 'Bank in a Box', one of three shortlisted finalists for the banking and finance category of the CIO Benchmark Awards.
Judges notes: Yarra Valley Water [The Benchmark Awards]
Judges notes: Yarra Valley Water [The Benchmark Awards]
iTnews' panel of judges discuss Yarra Valley Water's insourcing project, one of three shortlisted finalists for the Utilities category of the CIO Benchmark Awards.
Latest Comments
Polls
Do you prefer the Coalition's NBN policy?

   |   View results
Yes
  19%
 
No
  81%
TOTAL VOTES: 1681

Vote