Australian internet fails pigeon test

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Australian internet fails pigeon test
"Nine hours to transfer 700M. Wow only 9 hours? How did they get it to go so fast? (Here in Bumfuck Australia with 13k Telstra dial up)"
 
Oct 29, 2009 2:57 AM
Tags: telstra | pigeon | isp | speed | internet | transfer

A pigeon has transferred 700MB at a faster rate than Telstra ADSL.

A pigeon has transferred a 700 megabyte file faster than a car or a Telstra ADSL internet connection in rural Australia.

The bizarre experiment, conducted in rural New South Wales, was prompted by a comment by Prime Minister Kevin Rudd in Parliament last week whilst attacking the Liberal Party for its opposition to the bill that proposed to split Telstra.

"If the Liberals had their way Australians would be left using carrier pigeons for the future rather than accessing an internationally competitive broadband network," Rudd said.

ABC television's Hungry Beast program thought they'd take Rudd up on his challenge.

The hosts noted a similar test that had been done in South Africa where an IT company tested their own internet speeds by replacing it with a carrier pigeon. The pigeon won.

"Surely our internet speeds are faster than a pigeon," asked co-host Dan Ilic.

The race started in Tarana New South Wales and finished 132 kilometres away in Prospect.

The pigeon arrived first clocking in at one hour and five minutes, the car two hours and ten minutes and the internet dropped out twice and didn't even make it at all. When the upload began on the internet connection the estimated time of upload was between four and nine hours.

"So Prime Minister, maybe you should think twice before dissing carrier pigeons," Ilic said.


 
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Notomys
Oct 29, 2009 8:04 AM
Pigeons are awesome. Being a pigeons owner, the market opportunities are now endless.
MungBurger
Oct 29, 2009 8:05 AM
I would have expected our bird brain of a PM to be more in tune with the pigeon’s abilities. Guess I have too high expectations. - go figure.
JSL
Oct 29, 2009 9:10 AM
Well just think.. They claim they can do filtering and not slow down the internet... Anyone have a link where I can buy pigeons cheap??

blowe04
Oct 29, 2009 9:25 AM
Hmm, the piegon would have had to travel at a speed of 121km/h according to the distance and time noted. According to wikipedia homing piegons travel at an average speed of 45km/h with speeds of up to 95 km/h (59 mph) have been observed.
listohan
Oct 29, 2009 9:28 AM
But is Tarana inside the area to be covered by the NBN? Many think it is only the country areas which have poor internet service, but friends at East Hills have a CityRail station at their doorstep and yet tell me they have to have a slow satellite connection.
thabigd
Oct 29, 2009 9:39 AM
They're fast, but don't forget what happenned to Charlie!
bengrubb
Oct 29, 2009 10:00 AM
@blowe04

Google Maps puts the distance between the two towns via road as 131 km.

Don't forget pigeons don't follow the road and therefore it would have flown 98.8KM if it flew in a straight line.

That's a speed of 40.7 Km/h
blowe04
Oct 29, 2009 10:32 AM
@bengrubb
I mis-interpreted the distance. Went to whereis and that put the distance at 145km, so i assumed 132km was the straight line distance... apologies.
A straight line of 98.8km in 1 hr and 5 minutes is still a speed of 91.2km/h.
scan06disk
Oct 29, 2009 10:37 AM
and i thought pigeons were stupid... lol
jondoe
Oct 29, 2009 11:36 AM
But the latency would be terrible.
anonymous
Oct 29, 2009 11:45 AM
So - we should put the pigeons in parliament and make the pollies carry the data.

Nah. Who'd want to eat a pollie?
dno
Oct 29, 2009 12:05 PM
@jondoe
It sure would, you wouldn't want to to play any games over a pidgeon based NBN. I wonder what the packet loss would be like?
btone
Oct 29, 2009 12:52 PM
This is clearly outrageous spin by the pubescent anarchists - the internet carrier was Telstra after all, hardly a fair comparison for the bird and car. Now if the pigeon was muzzled, blindfolded and weighted (by advertising, profit margin and shareholder bias) and the car was a 1978 Holden which had received marginal maintenamce over the years due to mechanic layoffs we may have a fair playing field. Silly hippy kids!

ps: Is it just me or does anyone else think our young media crew would never make it on E Channel or Fox News? They clearly are far too radical and left wing for such quality media outlets and may be doomed to careers of intelligence, fairness and wit!

pps: Is it just me or does anyone else see a huge media future ahead for Ms Elmo K?

(omg, won't someone think of the doves?)
BIGpete
Oct 29, 2009 1:32 PM
Gold!

I really hope that they were following the correct RFC's for carrier pigeon:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IP_over_Avian_Carriers
brad23
Oct 29, 2009 2:14 PM
It's a pointless stunt, really. The results can be completely manipulated to get any result you want, just by varying the amount of data and distance travelled.

Try the experiment again with a mp3 file from Perth to Sydney, and the internet will clearly win, even if it is Telstra ;)
anonymous
Oct 30, 2009 12:55 PM
Is it true that the great monopolist is now frantically trying to corner the pigeon market in Australia, so that there will be no competition for its risible but lavishly overpriced offerings??

Perhaps they should be given the bird. . .
Bob
Nov 2, 2009 12:08 PM
What was the speed on a competitor's ADSL? Next G broadband is available at Tarana. ADSL is old technology. Not sure why anyone uses it.
actarian
Nov 3, 2009 11:58 AM
Forget the competitors ADSL, it doesn't exist as the cost of Tel$tra backhaul to Sydney is huge. Re NEXT G broadband, for starters, it is only a party line; i.e. you share the n x E1 backhaul from the node with whoever is online at present. The biggest problem is that you would have to mortgage your house to be a regular NEXT G data user with any decent download limits.
Bob
Nov 4, 2009 8:51 AM
Backhaul in Australia is expensive. But if one carrier was overpriced then "true" competitors would do it cheaper. Where are they?
brad23
Nov 4, 2009 10:40 AM
Where alternate backhaul exists, backhaul is comparatively cheap. Where there is only one backhaul provider (guess who?) it is prohibitively expensive.

Gee, funny about that.
actarian
Nov 4, 2009 10:46 AM
Who could be bothered competing against a virtual monopoly like Tel$tra when they use their incumbent status to undercut anything competitors do in metro areas, let alone country areas like Tarana.
Graeme Harrison (prof at-symbol post.harvard.edu)
Nov 4, 2009 4:53 PM
I've given up on pigeons as the person who supplied them failed to tell me that they only fly in one direction... which is worse than the original Viatel 1200bps modems (which only had a back-channel of 75bps, on the grounds that this was 'typing speed').
Talking of Tarana, my farm (weekender) is less than 115km from the centre of Sydney (at Wombeyan Caves Rd, Goodmans Ford)... but it is over a one-hour round trip to drive into an area where there is mobile coverage (any network)... so much for 98% of Australia!

The local copper PSTN just 115km from the GPO goes via a two-stage 1970s radio-link to Mount Gibraltar, then via copper to the Bowral exchange. The maximum possible modem speed is 9600bps, so I use a satellite dish to get even 512kbps (Optus via HarbourSat) internet access (with poor latency as expected with satellite's total transmission distance and switches)... and low monthly data allowance, as you expect with satellite.

Now if I could just get those pigeons to fly back!
Jahm Mitt
Nov 5, 2009 4:53 PM
Nine hours to transfer 700M.

Wow only 9 hours? How did they get it to go so fast?

(Here in Bumfuck Australia with 13k Telstra dial up)
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