Australian internet fails pigeon test

 

A pigeon has transferred 700MB at a faster rate than Telstra ADSL.

A pigeon has transferred a 700 megabyte file faster than a car or a Telstra ADSL internet connection in rural Australia.

The bizarre experiment, conducted in rural New South Wales, was prompted by a comment by Prime Minister Kevin Rudd in Parliament last week whilst attacking the Liberal Party for its opposition to the bill that proposed to split Telstra.

"If the Liberals had their way Australians would be left using carrier pigeons for the future rather than accessing an internationally competitive broadband network," Rudd said.

ABC television's Hungry Beast program thought they'd take Rudd up on his challenge.

The hosts noted a similar test that had been done in South Africa where an IT company tested their own internet speeds by replacing it with a carrier pigeon. The pigeon won.

"Surely our internet speeds are faster than a pigeon," asked co-host Dan Ilic.

The race started in Tarana New South Wales and finished 132 kilometres away in Prospect.

The pigeon arrived first clocking in at one hour and five minutes, the car two hours and ten minutes and the internet dropped out twice and didn't even make it at all. When the upload began on the internet connection the estimated time of upload was between four and nine hours.

"So Prime Minister, maybe you should think twice before dissing carrier pigeons," Ilic said.


Australian internet fails pigeon test
"Nine hours to transfer 700M. Wow only 9 hours? How did they get it to go so fast? (Here in Bumfuck Australia with 13k Telstra dial up)"
By Jahm Mitt
 
 
 
Comments: 23
Notomys
Oct 29, 2009 8:04 AM
Pigeons are awesome. Being a pigeons owner, the market opportunities are now endless.
MungBurger
Oct 29, 2009 8:05 AM
I would have expected our bird brain of a PM to be more in tune with the pigeon’s abilities. Guess I have too high expectations. - go figure.
JSL
Oct 29, 2009 9:10 AM
Well just think.. They claim they can do filtering and not slow down the internet... Anyone have a link where I can buy pigeons cheap??

blowe04
Oct 29, 2009 9:25 AM
Hmm, the piegon would have had to travel at a speed of 121km/h according to the distance and time noted. According to wikipedia homing piegons travel at an average speed of 45km/h with speeds of up to 95 km/h (59 mph) have been observed.
listohan
Oct 29, 2009 9:28 AM
But is Tarana inside the area to be covered by the NBN? Many think it is only the country areas which have poor internet service, but friends at East Hills have a CityRail station at their doorstep and yet tell me they have to have a slow satellite connection.
thabigd
Oct 29, 2009 9:39 AM
They're fast, but don't forget what happenned to Charlie!
bengrubb
Oct 29, 2009 10:00 AM
@blowe04

Google Maps puts the distance between the two towns via road as 131 km.

Don't forget pigeons don't follow the road and therefore it would have flown 98.8KM if it flew in a straight line.

That's a speed of 40.7 Km/h
blowe04
Oct 29, 2009 10:32 AM
@bengrubb
I mis-interpreted the distance. Went to whereis and that put the distance at 145km, so i assumed 132km was the straight line distance... apologies.
A straight line of 98.8km in 1 hr and 5 minutes is still a speed of 91.2km/h.
scan06disk
Oct 29, 2009 10:37 AM
and i thought pigeons were stupid... lol
jondoe
Oct 29, 2009 11:36 AM
But the latency would be terrible.
anonymous
Oct 29, 2009 11:45 AM
So - we should put the pigeons in parliament and make the pollies carry the data.

Nah. Who'd want to eat a pollie?
dno
Oct 29, 2009 12:05 PM
@jondoe
It sure would, you wouldn't want to to play any games over a pidgeon based NBN. I wonder what the packet loss would be like?
btone
Oct 29, 2009 12:52 PM
This is clearly outrageous spin by the pubescent anarchists - the internet carrier was Telstra after all, hardly a fair comparison for the bird and car. Now if the pigeon was muzzled, blindfolded and weighted (by advertising, profit margin and shareholder bias) and the car was a 1978 Holden which had received marginal maintenamce over the years due to mechanic layoffs we may have a fair playing field. Silly hippy kids!

ps: Is it just me or does anyone else think our young media crew would never make it on E Channel or Fox News? They clearly are far too radical and left wing for such quality media outlets and may be doomed to careers of intelligence, fairness and wit!

pps: Is it just me or does anyone else see a huge media future ahead for Ms Elmo K?

(omg, won't someone think of the doves?)
BIGpete
Oct 29, 2009 1:32 PM
Gold!

I really hope that they were following the correct RFC's for carrier pigeon:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IP_over_Avian_Carriers
brad23
Oct 29, 2009 2:14 PM
It's a pointless stunt, really. The results can be completely manipulated to get any result you want, just by varying the amount of data and distance travelled.

Try the experiment again with a mp3 file from Perth to Sydney, and the internet will clearly win, even if it is Telstra ;)
anonymous
Oct 30, 2009 12:55 PM
Is it true that the great monopolist is now frantically trying to corner the pigeon market in Australia, so that there will be no competition for its risible but lavishly overpriced offerings??

Perhaps they should be given the bird. . .
Bob
Nov 2, 2009 12:08 PM
What was the speed on a competitor's ADSL? Next G broadband is available at Tarana. ADSL is old technology. Not sure why anyone uses it.
actarian
Nov 3, 2009 11:58 AM
Forget the competitors ADSL, it doesn't exist as the cost of Tel$tra backhaul to Sydney is huge. Re NEXT G broadband, for starters, it is only a party line; i.e. you share the n x E1 backhaul from the node with whoever is online at present. The biggest problem is that you would have to mortgage your house to be a regular NEXT G data user with any decent download limits.
Bob
Nov 4, 2009 8:51 AM
Backhaul in Australia is expensive. But if one carrier was overpriced then "true" competitors would do it cheaper. Where are they?
brad23
Nov 4, 2009 10:40 AM
Where alternate backhaul exists, backhaul is comparatively cheap. Where there is only one backhaul provider (guess who?) it is prohibitively expensive.

Gee, funny about that.
actarian
Nov 4, 2009 10:46 AM
Who could be bothered competing against a virtual monopoly like Tel$tra when they use their incumbent status to undercut anything competitors do in metro areas, let alone country areas like Tarana.
Graeme Harrison (prof at-symbol post.harvard.edu)
Nov 4, 2009 4:53 PM
I've given up on pigeons as the person who supplied them failed to tell me that they only fly in one direction... which is worse than the original Viatel 1200bps modems (which only had a back-channel of 75bps, on the grounds that this was 'typing speed').
Talking of Tarana, my farm (weekender) is less than 115km from the centre of Sydney (at Wombeyan Caves Rd, Goodmans Ford)... but it is over a one-hour round trip to drive into an area where there is mobile coverage (any network)... so much for 98% of Australia!

The local copper PSTN just 115km from the GPO goes via a two-stage 1970s radio-link to Mount Gibraltar, then via copper to the Bowral exchange. The maximum possible modem speed is 9600bps, so I use a satellite dish to get even 512kbps (Optus via HarbourSat) internet access (with poor latency as expected with satellite's total transmission distance and switches)... and low monthly data allowance, as you expect with satellite.

Now if I could just get those pigeons to fly back!
Jahm Mitt
Nov 5, 2009 4:53 PM
Nine hours to transfer 700M.

Wow only 9 hours? How did they get it to go so fast?

(Here in Bumfuck Australia with 13k Telstra dial up)
Comments have been disabled for this article.
 
 
Top Stories
Project management lessons from the QLD Health payroll inquiry
Analysis: How not to run a major IT project.
 
Review: Asus Fonepad
Calling on the Big Phone.
 
Photos: Highlights from SAP Sapphire Now 2013
All the keynote action from one of the world's biggest SAP events.
 
 
Sign up to receive iTnews email bulletins
   FOLLOW US...

Latest VideosSee all videos »

Bankwest builds continuous delivery capability
Bankwest builds continuous delivery capability
To automatically deploy test/dev sandboxes by mid-year.
Veterans' Affairs sets sights on modernisation
Veterans' Affairs sets sights on modernisation
Data safe with Human Services, CIO says.
Citi Australia drops platform customisations
Citi Australia drops platform customisations
Technology chief shifts focus from building to leveraging systems.
VicRoads restructures IT team
VicRoads restructures IT team
Department moves to align with industry benchmarks.
Zurich Australia extends IT team offshore
Zurich Australia extends IT team offshore
Malaysian staff served from Australian data centres.
Leigh Berrell - Utilities CIO of the Year
Leigh Berrell - Utilities CIO of the Year
Yarra Valley Water CIO Leigh Berrell accepts his Benchmark Award for Utilities CIO of the Year.
Wayne McMahon - Retail CIO of the Year
Wayne McMahon - Retail CIO of the Year
Domino's Pizza CIO Wayne McMahon accepts his Benchmark Award for Retail CIO of the Year.
Inside Perpetual's ongoing IT transformation
Inside Perpetual's ongoing IT transformation
CIO Jenny Levy discusses how outsourcing will help the firm "simplify, refocus and grow".
Managing Complexity - Defence's Daniel McCabe
Managing Complexity - Defence's Daniel McCabe
Daniel McCabe, Assistant Secretary of Australia's Department of Defence, provides the audience at the iTnews Data Centre Strategy Summit with a deep dive into the organisation's data centre consolidation program.
How Facebook designed the data centre from scratch - Marco Magarelli
How Facebook designed the data centre from scratch - Marco Magarelli
The full keynote by Facebook data centre architect Marco Magarelli at the Australian Data Centre Strategy Summit. Magarelli details the design considerations behind the social network's Prineville, Oregon; North Carolina and Luleå, Sweden data centres.
Modernising Legacy Data Centres - Telstra's Jon Curry
Modernising Legacy Data Centres - Telstra's Jon Curry
Telstra general manager of managed data centres Jon Curry guides the audience at the iTnews Australian Data Centre Summit through the build of the telco's Clayton, Victoria data centre.
NSW Government launches NABERS data centre rating tools
NSW Government launches NABERS data centre rating tools
Matthew Clark from the NSW Department of Environment guides facilties managers through the details of the new NABERS data centre energy rating tool at the Australian Data Centre Strategy Summit.
NABERS launch panel: Australian Data Centre Strategy Summit
NABERS launch panel: Australian Data Centre Strategy Summit
Matthew Clark (NSW Dept of Environment), Greg Boorer (Canberra Data Centres), Glenn Allan (National Australia Bank), Mike Andrea (Strategic Directions) and Bob Sharon (Green Global Consulting) discuss the impact of the NABERS data centre rating.
Judges notes: Fortescue Metals [The Benchmark Awards]
Judges notes: Fortescue Metals [The Benchmark Awards]
iTnews' panel of judges discuss Fortescue Metals 'New World of Work" project, one of three shortlisted finalists for the Industrials category of the CIO Benchmark Awards.
Judges notes: Retail [The Benchmark Awards]
Judges notes: Retail [The Benchmark Awards]
iTnews' panel of judges discuss the shortlisted finalists for the Retail category of the CIO Benchmark Awards.
Judges notes: Pacific Aluminium [The Benchmark Awards]
Judges notes: Pacific Aluminium [The Benchmark Awards]
iTnews' panel of judges discuss Pacific Aluminium's lightning fast service desk refresh, one of three shortlisted finalists for the Industrials category of the CIO Benchmark Awards.
Judges notes: Domino's Pizza [The Benchmark Awards]
Judges notes: Domino's Pizza [The Benchmark Awards]
iTnews' panel of judges discuss Domino's Pizza's shift to hosted services, one of three shortlisted finalists for the Retail category of the CIO Benchmark Awards.
Judges notes: McDonald's Australia [The Benchmark Awards]
Judges notes: McDonald's Australia [The Benchmark Awards]
iTnews' panel of judges discuss McDonald's Australia's new self-service portal for employees, one of three shortlisted finalists for the Retail category of the CIO Benchmark Awards.
Judges notes: ING Direct [The Benchmark Awards]
Judges notes: ING Direct [The Benchmark Awards]
iTnews' panel of judges discuss ING Direct's 'Bank in a Box', one of three shortlisted finalists for the banking and finance category of the CIO Benchmark Awards.
Judges notes: Yarra Valley Water [The Benchmark Awards]
Judges notes: Yarra Valley Water [The Benchmark Awards]
iTnews' panel of judges discuss Yarra Valley Water's insourcing project, one of three shortlisted finalists for the Utilities category of the CIO Benchmark Awards.
Latest Comments
Polls
Do you prefer the Coalition's NBN policy?

   |   View results
Yes
  19%
 
No
  81%
TOTAL VOTES: 1637

Vote