Facebook lifeline for Excom students

 

Search for lost millions and hope goes online.

Students of the collapsed Excom Education have banded together online to seek redress against the former national trainer.

The publisher of the Excom students' website and Facebook group, "Ash" as he preferred to be known, was left $20,000 in credit card debt when the group collapsed last month.

He said he was near to finishing his course but now can't sit his exams because the voucher codes were stuck inside the failed trainer's computer systems. He said he chose the expensive ExpressIT course because Excom promised a career path.

"That was my only hope, I was looking at a career change," Ash told iTnews.com.au. "I could have done the same course elsewhere for $3000 but I did it with them because they guaranteed a career."

He was swayed to do the course, which included a career builder module, because many of his friends had found employment through the trainer.

"Excom was the one who got them the job and Excom got them interviews. I was impressed that I would get into interviews because that's the hard bit."

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Ash was left with the prospect of paying the debt on his three credit cards while paying again to sit exams and seeking work on the open job market. "It's hard to get your resume on top of list," he said.

He said he set up the two sites because not everyone has a Facebook profile.

"On Facebook is mainly students who were upset and who share information about disputes with credit card providers; we share the knowledge if that can help us or if there's something legal we can do we can get together for that."

Ash, who worked in IT in India and is now an Australian resident, said he was "doing nothing at the moment, I'm relying on Centrelink payments".

Newcastle IT professional Tim Canning lost $2000 in the closure and was considering his options.

"The competitor learning companies are helping out but for me personally they only offered me a slight discount on the full price of a replacement course.

"As I have already paid for it once I am not too keen to pay again.

"Some of these poor kids have lost twenty thousand, so I guess in that way I am one of the lucky ones having only lost about $2000."

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Facebook lifeline for Excom students
""How did a unemployed person get 20K worth of credit cards in the first place?" Perhaps he rec'd a 20k limit before he started studying when he could have been working full time."
By Neatoboy
 
 
 
Comments: 5
dave68IT
Sep 6, 2010 7:36 AM
I don't understand the issue. Wouldn't "Ash" have the 20,000 credit card debt anyways even if he did finish his excom courses. And given DDLS are willing to allow these students to complete their courses it's surely not as bad as the article portrays it to be.
RaTTyRaTT
Sep 6, 2010 8:49 AM
Re Dave68IT: Not that simple.
Yes he would have that debt anyway, but at least he would have passed the training - done the exams and gotten all the appropriate pieces of paper to show an employer - aka: can pay back the 20K, now he's got nothing - for 20K... All the exams, etc must be passed prior to completing the actual course - and being certified. He may have some pretty certificates, for the courses, but the exams are what makes the difference.
DDLS offer does have strings attached, and certainly won't cover exam costs - which individually can be around the $200 mark x amount of exams to cover (6? = $1200) et al. Nice if you are broke and living on Centrelink now... Especially when you previously had paid for them.
DDLS will do the 'training' component, but if you are between that and exam certification - your stuffed!

What is interesting is that if the exam vouchers are on the computers, then they are worth value = mostly because they are pre-paid, and therefore of intrinsic value to the administrators to give to the students = can't really resell them otherwise. It's just the typical ANAL attitude of Liquidators/Administrators on these issues that they are IT illiterate, actually don't know the value of things, and generally just greedy to sell the kit - take a massive fee and ride off into the sunset patting themselves on the back for another successful windup!

I've been there before - and I can say it is lousy... no 'good' points, all bad - and yes it is as BAD as the article portrays! Seen it happen, will see it happen again.
dave68IT
Sep 6, 2010 11:10 AM
1) Surely the certifaction providers (Pearson, Prometric etc) have a copy of these vouchers that Excom had. You would imagine that the students could liase with them to honour the vouchers.
2) How did a unemployed person get 20K worth of credit cards in the first place?

Neatoboy
Sep 6, 2010 11:46 AM
"How did a unemployed person get 20K worth of credit cards in the first place?"

Perhaps he rec'd a 20k limited before he started studying when he could have been working full time.
Neatoboy
Sep 6, 2010 11:46 AM
"How did a unemployed person get 20K worth of credit cards in the first place?"

Perhaps he rec'd a 20k limit before he started studying when he could have been working full time.
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