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You referred to the OPEL saga which simlpy highlighted to the public that OPTOS/Singtel did not have a workable plan all along. It does stand them in goog light for the NBN bid, and nor should it!

Posted by
jon,
Apr 21, 2008 1:01 PM
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Michael,
Your prejudice and lack of common sense is on high visible display.
If we were talking about space shutles instead of FTTN you position would be as follows.
The U.S govt in calling for an RFP to build a space shuttle should diminsh the value of NASA's intrinsic position to win the job through its vastly superior experience, knowledge, infrastructure, resources and money. By NASA giving all it details to its "competitors", a group of Kite retailers through to cesna manufactures so they can compete on equal grounds !
Otherwise the kite retailers will boycott the process and leave NASA with an illigitimate win all to themselves!

Posted by
anonymous,
Apr 21, 2008 1:57 PM
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Well, Mr Anonymous, the author's name is Mitchell, not Michael so it's pretty obvious you paid little attention to that or any of the points made. Apart from the fact that NASA doesn't actually build anything, your analogy sucks.
Like a lot of Telstra supporters, you resist change. The government wants lower prices, diversity, choice and innovation because that's what consumers deserve. Everything that Telstra rejects.

Posted by
Steve,
Apr 21, 2008 2:16 PM
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Well done Michael, yet another broadband column.

Posted by
best_proevo_player_ever,
Apr 21, 2008 3:50 PM
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Mr Burgerman, my sigh is one of deep unbridled pleasure.

Posted by
Moebius,
Apr 21, 2008 4:02 PM
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Steve, if the govt wants lower prices, I'm sure the current shareholders would happily sell it back to the Govt for the $7.40 they paid for it. Then the govt can GIVE it to the kite retailers to sell services to who ever they want for whatever price they want.
Motivated by serving "the national interest" unlike the "evil" current shareholders who are motivated by "selfish dirty profit" for the risk of puting up their own money.
Buy me out and I will resist change no more . . Stupito

Posted by
anonymous,
Apr 21, 2008 5:52 PM
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We all know that FTTx is the best, and in places like Japan is significantly more workable because of geographic issues. In Australia it makes sense that a FTTx play is done by a big carrier for major regional locations so let them fight for the money, but limited it to areas that are ecconimically viable. However what about all the towns that neen bandwdith services and FTTx would be years away(if ever) .. ABG is the wrong model as it just delivered bandwidth and it is about services. Wireless is the only ecconomical option to cover most of the nations towns, FTTx here is a stupid idea for these locations that will not happen in our life time.

Posted by
Ross,
Apr 21, 2008 6:35 PM
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"..or even an overseas investor to step into the ring and wrest control from the usual suspects".
Why should Australia let some foreign owned company build the NBN and get any profits it makes (if it actually makes a profit)? Haven't we already got too much foreign owned crud in this country? It would be nice to see the profits go back to Australia and not some mob in the US, Europe etc.

Posted by
Brendan H,
Apr 21, 2008 7:28 PM
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If some Telco's are balking at a $5m bond and $50m tender cost, then they have no business bidding for a miltyi billion dollar project. The G9 should either get on with it or get out of the way and leave to the serious folk. Burgess alway said the G9 was a sham and the fact that Telstra has spent 3 years designing a network and G9 has spent 2 years on press releases, just proves him to be Let's have true competion

Posted by
R.Khan,
Apr 22, 2008 12:18 AM
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Enough of the delirious, devious and dangerous tricks that Telstra opponents have pulled for years to hold back progress and line their pockets at taxpayer expense.
If after all these years they still have no plan to deliver FTTN to Australians get out of the way and let Telstra do the job.

Posted by
Sydney Lawrence,
Apr 22, 2008 6:47 AM
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This tender is typical of government - absolutely ignorant of the technical needs for a proper proposal. Bidding without the network information is like proposing to do triple bypass surgery on someone while blindfolded. Can they really award the tender with only one proposal (ie Telstra, who have the information)??

Posted by
Bob,
Apr 22, 2008 8:55 AM
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How many Telstra patsies are posting here now!!
Can anyone honestly say that Telstra has driven innovation in this country? They held back on ADSL2 until it suited them, they demand that all exchanges be their exclusive domain, they introduced wireless networks years after the technology was available. They refuse to allow even a level playing ground. They still can't even get landlines and mobiles right..
Worse thing is that successive Governments have pandered to their lobby. When the time came, someone should have had the spine to split the Retail and the wholesale in two, sell off the retail and leave the Wholesale government-controlled. at least then it would be equal-opportunity bribery to all.
Australia will continue to fall in the broadband rankings throughout the OECD rankings.

Posted by
Chaps,
Apr 22, 2008 10:00 AM
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A foreign owned company will build the FTTN network whatever happens.
If Telstra are the successful bidder their French owned subcontractor Alcatel-Lucent, who has been selected without any VFM tendering process by Sol Trujillo, will be paid the lions share of the $10billion or whatever the build cost is.
For Telstra to keep spinning this "Australian" angle is plainly false - why does no one pick up Burgess for his inaccuracies in this matter?

Posted by
rick,
Apr 22, 2008 10:01 AM
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How hilarious to watch all the Telstra employees leap into action whenever their company receives negative press, furiously posting their retorts.
If only all the cards could be laid on the table for once.

Posted by
Anonymous,
Apr 22, 2008 6:28 PM
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Yes, Telstra employees and patsies! That must be it, because you couldn’t possibly be mistaken now, could you, Chaps and Anon?
Telstra positive comments are now starting to out number their competitors patsies/employees comments, because the majority of open-minded people are actually starting to wake up!
You can ignore what’s going on all you like, so that it all fits within your perception of telecoms, but Chaps, if you consider the multi-award winning NextG as non-innovative, well that’s your prerogative.
Also, in case you have been overseas for 10 years, Telstra was privatised and as such, deemed it not prudent to switch on ADSL2+, until suitable safeguards from further/new regulatory strangulation, were to Telstra’s, liking! A business decision, similar to which are made by each and every business everywhere, everyday (like say Telstra’s competitors simply deciding to resell Telstra, rather than investing – a business decision). If we didn’t want Telstra making these typical business decisions, Telstra should never have been sold – but they were.
You say Telstra introduced wireless technologies years after they were available? Maybe so, but unlike OPEL, at least they had a plan, did it right and continue to receive accolades accordingly, from those who actually know!
You also say, they refuse to allow a level playing field? If that means Telstra are continually forced to subsidize leeching competitors, well yes, ok!
As for the exchanges, we have heard the likes of Primus’ Ravi Bhatia whining about not gaining access! But even Graeme Samuel said (Aust. IT 14/3) : - “there may be what I call 'artificial' constraints where there are claimed impediments to competitors accessing the unconditioned local loop service (ULLS) and line sharing service (LSS), but this isn't actually the case”... hmmm, quite the opposite to your inference!
As for mobiles and landlines, as a Telstra customer I have never had a problem with my mobile and maybe 1 or 2 problems in many years with my landline.
Regarding falling down the world ranking, this occurred whilst Howard/Coonan were at the helm, pandering to their chums at Optus. Did you know Optus’ “regulatory” Chief Paul Fletcher; was also the Liberal candidate for the seat of Cook? But I’m sure there was no favoritism to Optus now was there! As such I believe quite the opposite will now occur and we will climb the ladder!
So frankly, from my own personal experience and info gathered, I can see why us Telstra patsies are now rife and certainly find it hard to fathom why people like you, continue this childish Telstra bashing!

Posted by
SJT,
Apr 23, 2008 7:51 AM
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SJT, your comments demonstrate why selling off the network along with Telstra was mind-boggling insanity. Telstra's behaviour, while rational from a commercial perspective, is little short of treason from a national one.
It matters little who builds the infrastructure, so long as it ultimately belongs to us, the people of Australia.

Posted by
David B,
Apr 25, 2008 11:41 AM
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to David B, I suppose you also believe in fairies aswell. The fact is your mate John Howard/Helen Coonan has sold the goose that laid the golden egg. Please try to keep up!!!

Posted by
fred,
Apr 29, 2008 11:21 PM
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